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Best Card of Last Week
Poll ended at Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:40 pm
Government Assassin 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
Perfect Phylactery / Haerta the Eternal Waking 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
Renown Healer 12%  12%  [ 4 ]
Kill 21%  21%  [ 7 ]
Silver Monolith 15%  15%  [ 5 ]
Manor Trespasser 30%  30%  [ 10 ]
Fang Pack Seer 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 33
Total voters : 20
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 Post subject: Aug 12 - 18, 2018
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Government Assassin
Creature - Human Assassin (R)
First strike, Deathtouch, Flash
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Perfect Phylactery
Legendary Artifact — Equipment
Whenever Perfect Phylactery becomes attached to a creature with converted mana cost 6, if an Aura with converted mana cost 6 is attached to that creature, exile those three permanents, then return Perfect Phylactery to the battlefield transformed.
Equip—Pay 6 life

Haerta the Eternal Waking
:b: Legendary Creature — Zombie Wizard
Haste
:t:: Choose any number of nonland cards in your graveyard with total converted mana cost 6 and cast them without paying their mana costs.
If Haerta would die, instead transform it.
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Renown Healer
Creature - Human Cleric (C)
When Renown Healer enters the battlefield, you may dedicate another untapped creature you control to it. If you do, you gain 5 life. (Tap that creature. It doesn't untap during its controller's untap step for as long as you control this.)
"Come, my child, and feel the blessings of the gods."
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Kill
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Destroy target creature that's not undead (Undead cards are Skeletons, Zombies, Vampires, Spirits)

Silver Monolith
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Silver Monolith enters the battlefield tapped.
Silver Monolith doesn't untap during your untap step unless an opponent cast two or more spells since your last turn.
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While it sleeps, Innistrad's greatest horrors wreak havoc.

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Creature -- Human Rogue (C)
Manor Trespasser can't be blocked except by creatures with vigilance.
"I can tell you much about the effectiveness of the Baron's personal guards and even more about the exquisite flavors he keeps in his wine cellar."
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Fang-Pack Seer
Creature — Wolf Monk (U)
Your opponent plays with the top card of his or her library revealed.
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I kind of love all of them except the monolith. Withholding my vote for now.

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I kind of love all of them except the monolith.

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I mean, I get the werewolf reference and honestly, i think that's lovely. But it's too close to its Grim namesake in powerlevel to my liking. I'll admit that when I first read it, I didn't see that it entered the battlefield tapped, and that the visceral reaction I had to its perceived brokenness under that assumption has colored my view of it rather irreversably. But even that just makes it one of those cards where when it works the way it's "supposed" to, it's incredible underwhelming, and when you find a way to unlock its potential, it's busted af. I don't like it when cards, by their very nature, are completely unable to find a middle ground in that regard.

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busted af might be a little exaggeration meanwhile plenty other 2-card combos just straight up infinite. this one gives a reusable 3 mana a turn XD heh


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:t:: Each player exiles the top half of their library, rounded down.
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I like Kill a lot. Batching seems like a great way to solve situations like this where single creature types are just too narrow.

I also voted for Manor Trespasser. It's undercosted, especially for a common, but I love these flavorful forms of unblockability.

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Am I the only who is somewhat disappointed that Kill's only innovation is the implementation of batching? Don't get me wrong it is quite elegant and ripe with mechanics-based flavor, but a pseudo-functional reprint is unfortunately a miss for me.


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Am I the only who is somewhat disappointed that Kill's only innovation is the implementation of batching? Don't get me wrong it is quite elegant and ripe with mechanics-based flavor, but a pseudo-functional reprint is unfortunately a miss for me.


I voted for Kill, but I completely agree with you on batching. I think too much batching would rapidly remove useful words from magic lexicon. Undead is a good idea, but then if they ever create a new creature type, they'll have to update what is "undead". Even now, Nightstalkers and Dauthi are very "spirit-like", but aren't qualified as Undead, and Thrulls and Homonculi are also not undead, even though they're very Zombie-like. I'm not saying that they should be included, but rather that batching can miss a lot of things, especially where creature types are involved. The fact that you need to list the creature types anyways in reminder text undoes everything that batching is about. If "Kill" just said "destroy target creature that isn't a Skeleton, Zombie, Vampire, or Spirit", then it'd make just as much sense, because it'd assume that we're smart enough to realize that all of those creature types are things that are already "dead".

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Am I the only who is somewhat disappointed that Kill's only innovation is the implementation of batching? Don't get me wrong it is quite elegant and ripe with mechanics-based flavor, but a pseudo-functional reprint is unfortunately a miss for me.

you are not the only one. :hand:
look at last week's cotw haha. I said almost the same thing about a different card.


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Re: Kill. I was actually on a hiatus during Innistrad and didn't know about Victim of Night. Oops. But regardless, the point of Kill was just to showcase a neat use of batching to solve a problem that most of us are already aware of -- how do deal with higher-order tribes.

But I agree that it's nothing on Manor Trespasser.


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Yarium wrote:
The fact that you need to list the creature types anyways in reminder text undoes everything that batching is about.

I feel like this way of thinking ignores the real purpose of keywords in general. The presence of reminder text doesn't invalidate the usefulness of a keyword. Most non-evergreen keywords use reminder text every time they show up on a card (including historic!), but once you know what it does, you A) can skip over the reminder text from then on and B) have a concise way to refer to that mechanic to other players who also know how it works. There's more to it than just reducing the amount of text on a card.

I do agree that a lot of things don't deserve batching, but in this case, I like it. I've definitely had moments in the past when I wished Magic had a consolidated "undead" creature type, and this solves that pretty cleanly.

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I think an issue is that those types are not consistently undead. Kami are Spirits but not undead. Innistradi Vampires are alive and not undead, which is why Sorin can be a planeswalker, and Aetherborn can become Vampires but aren't undead. I think Shades and Specters are sometimes undead, sometimes not. Only Zombies and Skeletons (and Wraiths) are consistently undead. I think some things that are off, like Wurms equipping boots, are okay, but this seems super inconsistent if it were to be evergreen.


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I think an issue is that those types are not consistently undead. Kami are Spirits but not undead. Innistradi Vampires are alive and not undead, which is why Sorin can be a planeswalker, and Aetherborn can become Vampires but aren't undead. I think Shades and Specters are sometimes undead, sometimes not. Only Zombies and Skeletons (and Wraiths) are consistently undead. I think some things that are off, like Wurms equipping boots, are okay, but this seems super inconsistent if it were to be evergreen.

Eh, historic had the same problem, where some artifacts like Wanderer's Twig don't feel particularly historic, but I see what you mean.

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That's a fair worry. I think the solution would also be to release this mechanic in a block where the spirits and vampires are undead. Then if people want to use the card outside the block for Innistrad Vampires, then they'd just have to deal with it. Like how a Diamond Mare can ride a Pegasus Courser.


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As long as no opponents control an Island, Undersea Spireback is a colorless Island land. (It's not a creature.)

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When Teferi's Timelost is put into your hand from the battlefield or graveyard, you may draw a card. If you do, discard a card.
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You may cast this spell as though it had flash if you use to cast it.
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The local children laugh as they whisper of the monsters that go bump in the night. But if they were to sally forth beyond the levee walls, the wretch they'd meet would rise up far more wicked than a werewolf.
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