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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:13 am 
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Robber of the rich has reach. Is that something red is getting more often now?

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CotW is a method for ranking cards in increasing order of printability.

*"To YMTC it up" means to design cards that have value mostly from a design perspective. i.e. you would put them in a case under glass in your living room and visitors could remark upon the wonderful design principles, with nobody ever worring if the cards are annoying/pointless/confusing in actual play

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:55 am 
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About Robber though...
It says nothing about being able to see the card you exiled so is it really as good as you think?
What if you have no desire to play anything the op has, especially a random card?

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I think the ruling will allow you to look at it. How else would you know how much to pay to play it?


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All cards in exile are face-up and public information, like cards in the graveyard, unless they are explicitly stated to be face-down. This may be confusing 'cause they're face-down in the Arena UI.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:06 am 
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neru wrote:
All cards in exile are face-up and public information, like cards in the graveyard, unless they are explicitly stated to be face-down. This may be confusing 'cause they're face-down in the Arena UI.


Thanks for the clarification. :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:03 am 
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My favorite card of the set so far...

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The flavor is awesome, lol.


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The flavor is awesome, lol.


That is excellent flavor.

Gonna be this sets version of draw card fairy/lifelink kitty/goblin party sorcery/mill dood to try and meme out with in limited. Seems less risky than the other recent ones - if you fail to pick up meme quantity, it’s still a bear you might want as curve filler.

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What, no Snow White?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:35 pm 
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She's in the set:

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I just wish these cards were more playable. It would make for some awesome constructed deck names. :party:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:40 pm 
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The flavor is awesome, lol.

All the bears you'll ever need. I'd like to see this bea viable strategy. If you're in red and keeping your mana curve low it could work out.

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CotW is a method for ranking cards in increasing order of printability.

*"To YMTC it up" means to design cards that have value mostly from a design perspective. i.e. you would put them in a case under glass in your living room and visitors could remark upon the wonderful design principles, with nobody ever worring if the cards are annoying/pointless/confusing in actual play

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:14 am 
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neru wrote:
All cards in exile are face-up and public information, like cards in the graveyard, unless they are explicitly stated to be face-down. This may be confusing 'cause they're face-down in the Arena UI.


What? How are they face-down? When I mill out people with Ashiok, I get tonnes of information by looking through their exile zone, so they are certainly available.

Or are you referring to cards exiled by the thief of sanity which explicitly states face-down?

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Yes they are thinking of Thief and that's what I was thinking about when I pondered to begin with.

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DJ0045 wrote:
My favorite card of the set so far...

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The flavor is awesome, lol.

two words, mirror march

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So they are reprinting spyglass... Do we need to craft those again? Or you can use the older ones in the new standard?

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neru wrote:
All cards in exile are face-up and public information, like cards in the graveyard, unless they are explicitly stated to be face-down. This may be confusing 'cause they're face-down in the Arena UI.


What? How are they face-down? When I mill out people with Ashiok, I get tonnes of information by looking through their exile zone, so they are certainly available.

Or are you referring to cards exiled by the thief of sanity which explicitly states face-down?

I mean they are literally face-down in the UI. You have to click on the exiled pile to pull up and go through what is in exile. This is an extra step that may make it confusing for players unfamiliar with the rules there. As I thought may be true for someone if they did not know exiled cards are public information.

So they are reprinting spyglass... Do we need to craft those again? Or you can use the older ones in the new standard?

All cards with the same name are treated as the same, so as long as a card with that name is legal, all versions of that card are legal.


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I’m surprised this got printed.

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Not sure on the standard relevance, but in other formats, ummm.... wow?!?


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Target opponent reveals his or her hand. You may choose a nonland card from your opponent's hand. If you do, your opponent exiles that card. If a nonblack card was exiled this way, exile a card from your hand.

Interesting card. Great sideboard, but do you maindeck this? Guess you can choose not to take anything if there's nothing non-black that you care about to save a card yourself. Cute in Suicide Black, though Drill Bit might still be better there.


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Yeah that thing could have a place in Rakdos hell bent, other than that is just SB coz 241'ng your self is not the brightest idea

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neru wrote:
I mean they are literally face-down in the UI. You have to click on the exiled pile to pull up and go through what is in exile. This is an extra step that may make it confusing for players unfamiliar with the rules there. As I thought may be true for someone if they did not know exiled cards are public information.


Ah, yes, they are not displayed. The graveyard is almost the same. You can see just 1 card and need to click to see more. Exile zone is right next to it and it shimmers and glows. Like a big red button. I for one just have to click big red buttons. But how would you display them? Late-game Ashiok exiling 20-30 cards, it needs to be a pile or it would clutter everything up. And if it's just the top card visible, what would happen if the last card exiled was face-down? Then you would just see a face-down card until you click on it and can see the cards underneath.

I'm not sure it would have any benefit to change it. But alas, we're off topic. Lets leave it there.

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I'm not a fan of glass casket and witching well in the slightest, I'm not particularly convinced that flavor should be a relevant factor on whenever red or black gets to destroy a permanent or is powerless to stop it. Plus I feel that "I want to run shatter because I need to destroy equips, vehicles, artifact creatures, colorless silver bullets coming from the sideboard or permanents with a strong tap ability" is more logical than "I want to run shatter to blow up things equipments, vehicles and random stuff that they wanted to have artifact flavor or they wanted to be weak to shatter and not mire in misery for play design concerns."

Even if they want an artifact matter block, it would be more memorable if the artifacts behaved differently from enchantments, imho.

(Ps. I'd also have loved if bolas citadel was an artifact enchantment, but whatever.)


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