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 Post subject: Two Black diXcards
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:50 pm 
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I felt like someone probably made these card before. Sorry if this is a "repost".

Drain Mind
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Target opponent may discard up to X cards. Then, you draw cards equal to the difference of X and discarded cards.

Fleeting Thoughts
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Target opponent reveals their hand. You choose a card from it. Put that card into its owner's library just beneath the top X cards of that library where X is the converted mana cost of the card.


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 Post subject: Re: Two Black diXcards
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:15 pm 
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Drain Mind is neat, but suffers from some awkward templating. Not sure how to improve it, though.

I like Fleeting Thoughts a lot. It's like a Thoughtseize, but more temporary.

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 Post subject: Re: Two Black diXcards
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:56 pm 
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Drain Mind isn't really black in practice: you're mostly gonna be drawing cards. I think you could get away with but feels wrong.

I think Fleeting Thoughts still needs to say "non-land" to avoid being too brutal to mana-light hands.

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 Post subject: Re: Two Black diXcards
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:10 pm 
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razorborne wrote:
Drain Mind isn't really black in practice: you're mostly gonna be drawing cards. I think you could get away with but feels wrong.

I think Fleeting Thoughts still needs to say "non-land" to avoid being too brutal to mana-light hands.

:duel:

At first I thought the land thing wasn't a big deal, since they get the land back immediately, but I guess getting Fatigued while light on lands does mess with the mulligan calculation of "as long as I draw a land within my first 3 turns, this hand is okay." Maybe a nonland rider would be a good idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Two Black diXcards
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razorborne wrote:
Drain Mind isn't really black in practice: you're mostly gonna be drawing cards. I think you could get away with but feels wrong.


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What if I "spin" it so that this is part of black's painful choice pie?


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 Post subject: Re: Two Black diXcards
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theatog wrote:
razorborne wrote:
Drain Mind isn't really black in practice: you're mostly gonna be drawing cards. I think you could get away with but feels wrong.


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What if I "spin" it so that this is part of black's painful choice pie?

it's not really that painful, though. the "painful choice" thing comes up on things like choice of damnations where either way bad things happen to me, but you drawing isn't bad for me, it's good for you. it's much more mind spring with a drawback if your opponent has cards they don't care about than it is mind shatter. maybe if you revealed each card and for each one I could discard to make you mill it instead, that'd feel black, but that's a lot more complicated.

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 Post subject: Re: Two Black diXcards
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:30 am 
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For templating it could be worded like Torment of Hailfire where you start with "Repeat the following process X times." but you might need to choose that target first.


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