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Are you still enjoying the Duel's Meta?
Yes. Best season yet. 51%  51%  [ 29 ]
Yes. I did prefer a previous season though. 23%  23%  [ 13 ]
No. Preferred "X" season. 16%  16%  [ 9 ]
No. I've stopped playing. 11%  11%  [ 6 ]
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:34 am 
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I'm not saying you're top 5 or anything, but the upper 50%. Point is you probably don't need a lecture from a random.


Careful of labels, GoA...Duke is new, not a random. Talk like that makes these forums seem like we are unwelcoming of new ideas and people...it makes us, as a whole, look click-ish.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:40 am 
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We're clique-ish enough with older posters let alone new ones, what do you mean "look like"?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:54 am 
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You should put that in your sig....I do like it, nice touch. :D

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a cockrhino or dickephant.
Next time Magic revisits Ravnica I want those printed as Simic mutants. :D


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You should put that in your sig....I do like it, nice touch. :D


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I thrive on the tears of my competitors. Looks like they all came to this thread to start a support group. At least they'll be easier to collect now.

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There are so many viable decks / archetypes / approaches to the meta this season, it's ridiculous! Even my favorite strategy - proactive tap-out midrange - is well positioned. My only complaint about the format is that people have realized Esper Control is a viable deck and they've started playing it. We need to find some way to shove them back under the bed, so I can return to living a blissfully counterspell-free existence.

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Zerris wrote:
There are so many viable decks / archetypes / approaches to the meta this season, it's ridiculous! Even my favorite strategy - proactive tap-out midrange - is well positioned. My only complaint about the format is that people have realized Esper Control is a viable deck and they've started playing it. We need to find some way to shove them back under the bed, so I can return to living a blissfully counterspell-free existence.



Zerris pls. Control will never give up, and Grixis control is in top 8 at the protour so we're living. :plot:

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:49 pm 
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From what I've seen, they used some crucial cards we don't have in Duels and aren't restricted by the rarity...


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Zerris wrote:
There are so many viable decks / archetypes / approaches to the meta this season, it's ridiculous! Even my favorite strategy - proactive tap-out midrange - is well positioned. My only complaint about the format is that people have realized Esper Control is a viable deck and they've started playing it. We need to find some way to shove them back under the bed, so I can return to living a blissfully counterspell-free existence.


Actually, I made some quick changes to my pre-season boros vehicle deck just to do a quest and what did I face? Esper control...
Totally wrecked it though. Can't say if it was a lucky win or not, but it was very one sided and I was mana-screwed. Selfless spirit and too many threats helped, but he Eventually gave up amd let me finish my quest easily.
1 game is far from being a good sample, but does Esper have trouble with vehicles?

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1 game is far from being a good sample, but does Esper have trouble with vehicles?

It has trouble with aggro in general. As long as your decks have many 1-2 drops.


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Zerris wrote:
There are so many viable decks / archetypes / approaches to the meta this season, it's ridiculous! Even my favorite strategy - proactive tap-out midrange - is well positioned. My only complaint about the format is that people have realized Esper Control is a viable deck and they've started playing it. We need to find some way to shove them back under the bed, so I can return to living a blissfully counterspell-free existence.

does Esper have trouble with vehicles?


Depends on how the deck is built, if you have early removal then you're usually decent.

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Esper has answers to Vehicles. Depending on how heavily you want to invest into Black you have Grasp of Darkness or Gideon's Reproach as well as Blessed Alliance, all of which can deal with attacking vehicles well enough (though Copter still gets a loot when using Reproach/Alliance).

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That's just it... The esper deck took care of the vehicles (counters/removal) but then folded to the pilots...
It may have just been a janky or unlucky esper deck, but I was just wondering what the esper players thought.

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Haven_pt wrote:
That's just it... The esper deck took care of the vehicles (counters/removal) but then folded to the pilots...
It may have just been a janky or unlucky esper deck, but I was just wondering what the esper players thought.

I never used esper control yet since the update, but as a first feeling it should not have more problems than against another aggro deck. It can deal with vehicles with instant speed removals, as he would do with other creatures. But i let you know next week, when i start updating it, even if i already have an idea for the whole deck, i should only see some unconsidered cards.

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1 game is far from being a good sample, but does Esper have trouble with vehicles?

It has trouble with aggro in general. As long as your decks have many 1-2 drops.

Yeah, Esper is trying to go 1-for-1 removal until at least turn 4. It's very easy to go underneath Esper and finish it off with burn. The way people treat Esper as this boogeyman amuses me.

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I apologize if I offended. My intention with posting was to join the discussion and add my opinion. BBB, hope you can forgive. Please consider the below an explanation to why I posted the way I did and as an invitation to further expand your opinion.

I just felt that the complaints and critiques about the format sounded strange, normally a format where there are many formats is considered healthy. Duels certainly has had the other extreme when gruul ramp was clearly the best thing to be doing. I didn't mean to insult one of the best players, but opening a topic with a complaining post that doesn't back up its points is asking for comments, especially from those with different opinions.

I joined because I want to contribute to the discussions and learn more. I read a post wherein an individual complained that a lifegain deck lost, that in a new meta they played a bunch of aggro decks and that other people are brewing new things. Were I reading this topic before I made the account, I would have liked to see the poster expand on their post. There certainly are complaints to be made about the new season, but the ones I saw didn't seem to be very well stated. I decided to try to get some discussion.

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Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

The poll consensus is clear. I am wrong, my opinion is invalid.

Move along!

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Duke wrote:
I apologize if I offended. My intention with posting was to join the discussion and add my opinion. BBB, hope you can forgive. Please consider the below an explanation to why I posted the way I did and as an invitation to further expand your opinion.

I just felt that the complaints and critiques about the format sounded strange, normally a format where there are many formats is considered healthy. Duels certainly has had the other extreme when gruul ramp was clearly the best thing to be doing. I didn't mean to insult one of the best players, but opening a topic with a complaining post that doesn't back up its points is asking for comments, especially from those with different opinions.

I joined because I want to contribute to the discussions and learn more. I read a post wherein an individual complained that a lifegain deck lost, that in a new meta they played a bunch of aggro decks and that other people are brewing new things. Were I reading this topic before I made the account, I would have liked to see the poster expand on their post. There certainly are complaints to be made about the new season, but the ones I saw didn't seem to be very well stated. I decided to try to get some discussion.

Also I have no idea who BBB is yet or what baggage comes with disagreeing with them

Jesus, this is the worst post you've ever made. Take the nerdy **** and leave that at home.

If you have opinions, express them.

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