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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:23 pm 
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i prefer to think of the colour pie as a pretty shallow thing

if you are protecting someone that is white


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:31 pm 
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i prefer to think of the colour pie as a pretty shallow thing

if you are protecting someone that is white

So a mother bear protecting her cubs is and not ? Or a pair of characters protecting each other because they love one another isn't ?


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I think it's sorin's management of the plane that makes him white. He doesn't just wan't protect his property, he retains balance and order inside the plane with the likes of avacyn

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:23 pm 
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Shippo wrote:
i prefer to think of the colour pie as a pretty shallow thing

if you are protecting someone that is white


I've been battling anti-sjws for the past few hours and this is the one thing that made me mad.

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i prefer to think of the colour pie as a pretty shallow thing

if you are protecting someone that is white

So a mother bear protecting her cubs is and not ? Or a pair of characters protecting each other because they love one another isn't ?


This, so very much.

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i would not be surprised to see a primarily green card that stresses the maternal aspects of a beast being portrayed as GW

if pia and kiran's card did more to stress the protective nature of their relationship then i would not surprised to see it as RW

because bears are green and love is red but protection is white

sorin has a lot of black stuff going on but the protection bit is white so he is BW


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:44 pm 
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I am pretty anti-sjw

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i posted in a thread on a forum i go to that was attacking sjws and i decided that it is an argument that i don't like and is probably mostly people linking youtubers at each other


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Shippo wrote:
i would not be surprised to see a primarily green card that stresses the maternal aspects of a beast being portrayed as GW

if pia and kiran's card did more to stress the protective nature of their relationship then i would not surprised to see it as RW

because bears are green and love is red but protection is white

sorin has a lot of black stuff going on but the protection bit is white so he is BW

And what about the negative aspects of white?
Such as genocide for example.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:14 pm 
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civilization in general is something that is usually white. sometimes things like destructive classism or maybe genocide are fine as monowhite if spun in the right way but "evil" is generally black, as is killing, so i'd generally see genocide as usually more WB than mono W


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:25 pm 
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Shippo wrote:
i would not be surprised to see a primarily green card that stresses the maternal aspects of a beast being portrayed as GW

if pia and kiran's card did more to stress the protective nature of their relationship then i would not surprised to see it as RW

because bears are green and love is red but protection is white

sorin has a lot of black stuff going on but the protection bit is white so he is BW


Must be why nearly all maternal flavour is mono- or , and why neither nor cards emphasise familial protection.

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civilization in general is something that is usually white. sometimes things like destructive classism or maybe genocide are fine as monowhite if spun in the right way but "evil" is generally black, as is killing, so i'd generally see genocide as usually more WB than mono W


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civilization in general is something that is usually white. sometimes things like destructive classism or maybe genocide are fine as monowhite if spun in the right way but "evil" is generally black, as is killing, so i'd generally see genocide as usually more WB than mono W

I assure you, white is capable of evil.
As black is capable of nobility.

Now with more on this story, we go to Helio at the scene. Helio?

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Now with more on this story, we go to Helio at the scene. Helio?


What?

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Now with more on this story, we go to Helio at the scene. Helio?


What?

I was doing a bit. As a news reporter.

Just seemed like this sort of... I can't even call it a misconception, but this seems like the kind of thing you would specifically want to address.

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I do not know how many magic cards there are that have familial protection as a major theme. Most cards that deal with having children are going to be green because the emphasis of those cards will be on the natural life cycle and nature is green.

I think that white is fully capable of evil.
I find it harder to imagine black being portrayed as noble, at least in the "righteous" sense. I am sure you could pull off a black protaganist, but I don't imagine he would be someone who goes about performing noble deeds.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:39 pm 
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@Barinellos: I don't really think I have anything to add at this point, honestly. It' been debated to death.

@Shippo: is the colour of determinism and choosing your own fate (thats why it hates , the colour of destinyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy). In theory, characters like Hellboy or Raven are heroes because they're good as means to stick it to people telling them to be evil - and they exceed at that, being fan favourites as they are.

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Sorin's white comes from his management of innistrad. One of white's major qualities is order.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:15 pm 
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I'm anti-theamazingsquid

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Huh, I... kinda can't believe anyone actually needs to be convinced these days that white =/= good but I guess the AF&S community is kind of its own weird little bottle as far as understanding of the colors goes.

I mean there is a certain elegance in simplifying the other colors down so that they're all as flat and simplistic as green :D Maybe we've been going about it all wrong, all this time! We don't make green three dimensional, we make everything else ONE dimensional!


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isn't flat. Its portrayal maybe gets repetitive, but aligned characters are actually some of the most diverse I've seen in Magic, from ambitious /pol/ scum (Xenagos, Freyalise) to fairly intellectual (several Kamigawa characters). Acceptance is as broad a goal as everything else.

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