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 Post subject: Re: Evolpea?!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:09 am 
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Okay, I'm a little slow

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5 power is relevant. He's easy to cast in Grixis (unlike erebos titan) and blocks gaeas revenge, also his ability is what that archetype can use (granted, so can jund). You have way better 5 drops in jund though.
evolpea / conjuring outland colossus / priest of bloodrite make him look pretty underwhelming here.


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 Post subject: Re: Evolpea?!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:01 am 
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Big fan of Jund so will give this a try over 10 v Hard AI. I just completed a gauntlet with covert's Golgari Control going 8 - 2 and of course it's Jund minus red but totally different mix with Jund and the big guys and ignition. I guess as OP as Gaea's Revenge you are choosing not to run. He is no good of course for ignition but a 1 of may be suitable however will run as is and report back. One thing I have found in general (certainly vs AI) is flyers can be an issue. The AI is pretty cute at running the right counter deck. You have guaranteed removal in the Cruel revival but as a 2 of still a risk. A foundry land 1 of could be useful insurance without over hurting the curve. I get why the passage is there. Anyway if that is a thing when I run the gauntlet can let you know.


GR I'd a great card, I was just trying to keep the mana curve low due to the GG and RR already in the deck. I Don't have ramp in here, so turn five is either a Nightfire,Colossus, or Ignited Kird. But 5 mana is not hard to do. The entire deck functions on 5 mana, which was one of reasons for the picks I made. Any other mana on the board is absolutely combat tricks. Nightfire does a surprisingly good job at clearing flyers. Anything early with a good body gets a double Myr sac. Late game, it's block or they die. Passage and Kird push damage through. Everything can interact with Passage and Kird, another reason I left GR out.

Out of 20 matches vs hard AI yesterday, I went 16-4. Let me know what you think.

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 Post subject: Re: Evolpea?!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:50 am 
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Jund gauntlet complete! Results 7 - 3! Not bad. The AI match ups were:-

Boros - Win
Selesnya - loss (-2 / 20, despite getting the big guys out held! Finisher was Gaea. Had 22 power on the board but was tough)
Selesnya - loss mana screwed. Kept a 2 lander as had 2 colours but went about 6 straight turns without drawing land)
Bant - Win
Rakdos - Win
Mardu - Win
Esper - Win
Esper - Win
Azorius - loss (had the ignition but nothing big to ignite the board)
Temur - Win

What is interesting here is that Möbius put a vid out saying he thought there was not the variety in the AI decks. The above was a decent mix.

Apart from one mana screw and one mana flood the mana was fine. There were a few matches where having the ignition in hand but nothing significant to ignite. Just the draw though really. But boy when you do get them lined up it can be brutal. One of the ESPER match ups was a turn 6 win and was sitting with a Zendikar and Colossus in hand! It was another Zendikar at 5/4 that was ignited and swung for the win. In quite a few matches it was the giant that was out and ignited so he is a good add. Also in one match I used his ability twice to finish, yes I had the win in hand but come on, points for style!

EDIT: I will take it out on versus but will do Golgari first. You can never really know what people will run and usually I get sweet runs versus AI but suffer in versus, but we will see. I am curious too as if you do get an early decent body and ignition to hand how they are able to remove will be interesting.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:55 am 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:13 pm 
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Jund gauntlet complete! Results 7 - 3! Not bad. The AI match ups were:-

Boros - Win
Selesnya - loss (-2 / 20, despite getting the big guys out held! Finisher was Gaea. Had 22 power on the board but was tough)
Selesnya - loss mana screwed. Kept a 2 lander as had 2 colours but went about 6 straight turns without drawing land)
Bant - Win
Rakdos - Win
Mardu - Win
Esper - Win
Esper - Win
Azorius - loss (had the ignition but nothing big to ignite the board)
Temur - Win

What is interesting here is that Möbius put a vid out saying he thought there was not the variety in the AI decks. The above was a decent mix.

Apart from one mana screw and one mana flood the mana was fine. There were a few matches where having the ignition in hand but nothing significant to ignite. Just the draw though really. But boy when you do get them lined up it can be brutal. One of the ESPER match ups was a turn 6 win and was sitting with a Zendikar and Colossus in hand! It was another Zendikar at 5/4 that was ignited and swung for the win. In quite a few matches it was the giant that was out and ignited so he is a good add. Also in one match I used his ability twice to finish, yes I had the win in hand but come on, points for style!

EDIT: I will take it out on versus but will do Golgari first. You can never really know what people will run and usually I get sweet runs versus AI but suffer in versus, but we will see. I am curious too as if you do get an early decent body and ignition to hand how they are able to remove will be interesting.



Thanks dude. Anything you would change? It feels pretty solid and with the big bodies, it has threats that have to be handled or they lose. I keep eyeing GR because I love him, but I don't have the ramp to due him justice.

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 Post subject: Re: Evolpea?!
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What is Evolpea?! Tell me!!!!!


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