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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:59 am 
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It’s especially silly since everyone has the same shuffler, so even if it is broken, it’s broken for everyone else too. No advantage gained or lost, so seriously who cares?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:07 am 
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And in today’s culture, if One person cares then everyone HAS to care


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:53 am 
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Well fwiw, you are all using the same shuffler, so it will hurt you exactly as often as it helps you.

Also, we know there is non-randomness to the shuffler now, because MTGA favors certain types of results. I’m guessing the shuffler is fine, but the fixing algorithm is less smart. Basically, people complained for so long about a shuffler that was probably okay, that someone at mtg tried to ‘fix’ it. Be careful what you wish for - is my takeaway.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:42 am 
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i'm more interested in what things are like and why people come to certain conclusions than i am in winning or losing videogames

if there is a bias towards low or high hand draws in comparison to if cards were being drawn randomly then it would certainly be a quirk of weighting draws to try and get people certain kinds of hands, which you seem to be saying exists. I'd still be surprised if low and high-land draws were more common than they were in regular magic, since one of the obvious goals of a weighting system would be to prevent mana manaflood/screw and so I would imagine they wouldn't somehow make it more common instead.

It would be interesting if it were the case though.

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i'm more interested in what things are like and why people come to certain conclusions than i am in winning or losing videogames

if there is a bias towards low or high hand draws in comparison to if cards were being drawn randomly then it would certainly be a quirk of weighting draws to try and get people certain kinds of hands, which you seem to be saying exists. I'd still be surprised if low and high-land draws were more common than they were in regular magic, since one of the obvious goals of a weighting system would be to prevent mana manaflood/screw and so I would imagine they wouldn't somehow make it more common instead.

It would be interesting if it were the case though.


Let me try my best to explain:

There have been rumors (I believe confirmed) that MTG has purposefully adjusted the odds of a 'good' (meaning balanced) starting hand. This means that you are more likely to have at least the 'right' amount of lands when you start (meaning not too many or too few). All they have done is create an algorithm that scraps 1 bad starting hand - basically, you are getting a free mulligan but you don't see it happen. (they have not been particularly transparent about the algorithm, but I'd assume it simply reduces the likelihood of 0, 1, 5, 6, and 7 land opening hands - this will slightly improve the performance of poorly built decks, but honestly it won't make enough of a difference to justify crappy builds).

Regarding the rest of the deck, there is no indication - admitted or otherwise - that these changes would affect the ordering of the remaining 53 cards.

Anyway, from my perspective I don't want to get into a discussion on the underlying math again. The last time I did so, I caught someone using (obviously) faked data. I can't imagine what kind of crazy person you'd have to be to do that, and yet that kind of crazy person clearly exists. (who knows how many people their BS influenced)


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You can take it out on Sixty instead. Because he's the hero NGA deserves. Because he can take it.



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How is the trip going Barno? We need updates!

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Thanks Cucho! Perfect thread for me to post an update too, I love ya.

Im just starting week four (of five), and this is week two (of three) with Emily and week one (of two) of actual vacation! Week three (last week) included my stepbrother, wife and two boys who have ZERO respect for their parents so it was brutal to watch (cuz Emily is really polite and well behaved)

So now two weeks with Emily so we hit the ocean each day at 3-4pm, swim and play in the waves. It’s awesome. Today I saw something in the water and it was getting closer, then Emily splashed salt water in my eyes so I couldn’t see anything so I got us out of the water and she was all bummed out. Not taking chances with that white shark who killed some mom two weeks ago an hour north

Getting daily hugs and kisses, it’s awesome

Few days ago, I matched with this med student and we talked until 1am Saturday night and have been talking today a ton. I know it’s a long shot but it feels like a genuine connection and she’s great to talk to (super smart) so I’m hoping for the best. I got 13 days left here... at least :)


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You can take it out on Sixty instead. Because he's the hero NGA deserves. Because he can take it.



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That chick is gonna be hot


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That chick is gonna be hot


Gonna be?

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I just drew 9 lands in the top 16 cards of a 22 land deck so I came here to complain

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But that's... ... ... ... ... impossible?


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Now I'm playing draft and I've drawn 10 land in 17 cards of a 17 land 40 card deck... fishy

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Impossssssssssssible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:51 am 
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DJ0045 wrote:
Impossssssssssssible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are you calling me a liar?

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sixty4half wrote:
DJ0045 wrote:
Impossssssssssssible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are you calling me a liar?

yes


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DaRkStAr wrote:
sixty4half wrote:
DJ0045 wrote:
Impossssssssssssible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are you calling me a liar?

yes

well, okay.... i don't have a retort for that.... damn

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I’m so proud of you guys for what you’ve done to this thread, it brings a tear to my eye


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