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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:17 am 
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I never thought this would happen, but Acid-Moss is being taken out of the starter box and replaced by Explosive Vegetation.

This isn't the only change, they're replacing several cards. Notably, Foundry Street Denizen, Perilous Myr and Gatecreeper Vine are being replaced.

Watch and read it about it here:

Oh, and at the end of the video they also mention that they're making it optional to play against the AI when your opponent concedes. Now you can get the gold without playing out the match!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:23 am 
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So cards leaving the starter box means they being taken out of the pool completely? We'll suddenly have decks that are missing cards I gather?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:28 am 
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They're replaced.

Acid Moss is traded for Explosive Vegetation, which is, um, pretty good as far as 4 mana Ramp spells go.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:28 am 
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Remember when I talked about banning the starter box? Not so crazy huh! And they can do it because we got it for free, we didn't use earned Gold to unlock it. Nice wrinkle.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:29 am 
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No, the cards that are removed are replaced with other cards. Deck containing Perilous Myr will find themselves with Bronze Sable in the same spot when the update hits. Which, btw, seems to seriously impact thopter decks. The myr is a pretty important card there.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:30 am 
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CRY JUSTICE!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:31 am 
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Oh yeah, another big change I didn't mention:

Angelic Edict is replaced with Suppression Bonds in the starter box, and the Suppression Bonds we already have in the Origins pool is replaced with Enshrouding Mist, which benefits white weenie or Boros aggro.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:33 am 
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"To the experienced Constructed player, this change likely comes as no surprise. The multicolor "ramp" decks have been somewhat dominant recently, and they can be frustrating to play against because their most efficient ramp option is also such a strong tempo play."

Should never be something Ramp has access to outside of lategame. Well said R&D minion.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:35 am 
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Also losing these pests: Foundry Street Denizen, Perilous Myr.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:36 am 
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To everyone running or participating in a tournament, consider that the tournaments need to be concluded before the update, because most if not all decks will be affected by this change.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:38 am 
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if it doesn't complete, it's ok since everyone will get a free sideboard if they had those cards. I actually feel worse for people that didn't have any of these cards cuz they won't be able to make some good meta calls about adding 3-4 key cards


/incoming blog post by Wagner on this big change?!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:39 am 
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Axebane Stag? NOOOOOO

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:39 am 
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Barney, another bonus. Mono Red decks will no longer be Denizen>Aura>Repeat any more!

Axebane Stag? NOOOOOO


Poor Elk :(

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:40 am 
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I didn't expect R&D to ever do this, but I salute them not only for doing it, but for coming there and being super open about it. Looks like they really care about this game, huh? Today is a big day for Duels.

I'll write an article talking about the changes now. Yes, all of them. Even Stag for Wurm (Elk is going to get so pissed).

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:42 am 
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They're replacing Perilous Myr with this fuzzy looking mouse cat?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:46 am 
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Which wurm are we getting instead of Stag? Pelakka?!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:49 am 
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Well the mono Red deck I've used to farm gold against AI will require some small changes now.
Bye bye Perilous Myr and Foundry Street Denizen.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:52 am 
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So bad news though... Explosive vegetation is a better card than moss - t5 GR or PC is going to be a thing, and it's going to be brutal. I'm glad they cut myr, it was way too commonly used, even now in the RG ramp meta. I'm sad to see foundry go though, the replacement is almost unplayable and RDW needed help not nerf (new cards coming, so we'll see what happens). Some of the other changes have me a bit stumped, trading cards no one plays for cards no one will play... Weird, waste of time.

So, I think they just made elves MUCH better. I'm excited to try them out post expansion.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:54 am 
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DJ0045 wrote:
Some of the other changes have me a bit stumped, trading cards no one plays for cards no one will play... Weird, waste of time.


No one with all the cards play. They made it clear that some changes are aimed at strategies employed by newer players. Those changes are not meant for you and me.

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