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 Post subject: Shadow the Hedgehog
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:16 am 
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  1. Ragnarokio
  2. shadow amber
  3. Zinger2099
  4. SpiritualMaskSalesman
  5. 15337
  6. Minish
  7. Freddeh
  8. Captain Lunch
  9. Skystone
  10. Duskyblue
  11. Aaarrrgh
  12. Rubik
  13. Tevish Sazat
  14. KingofDominaria
  15. Paranoid King

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Please note that OC chat is allowed, contrary to the rules listed in the sign-up thread.

Shadow the Hedgehog airdrops into Westopolis, thinking back on what the alien who had referred to himself as "Black Doom" had said to him.
"Shadow... As you can see, the day of reckoning will soon be here. Find the SEVEN Chaos Emeralds and bring them to me as promised."
As he looked around the destroyed city, the meaning of "Day of Reckoning" was all too clear. But who made that promise? Was it him? He couldn't remember.
Continuing down the destroyed freeway, he noticed a familiar-looking blue blur attacking a small army of approaching aliens. Shadow huffed to himself - not even fast enough to beat that damned other hedgehog. Typical.
But, at the same time, Shadow felt as if he was being watched. Turning towards the feeling, he notes a large, ebony creature similar to a starfish floating next to him, with a massive black eye in the center of it.
"Shadow.... the promised day has come. You know what you must do....."
Shadow shook his head. He had no idea what was going on, but he couldn't do nothing. And he knew there was a chaos emerald somewhere in the city..... no matter what, it looked like he had to go in there.

STAGE 01: Westopolis
DARK MISSION: Annhialate the GUN forces! (Lynch a villager)
NORMAL MISSION: Find the Chaos Emerald! (No-lynch, or lynch a third party player)
HERO MISSION: Drive off the black creatures! (Lynch a mafioso)

STAGE 1 ENDS AT 10PM PDT ON WEDNESDAY 7 OCTOBER, 2020
With 15 alive, 8 is majority.


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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:37 am 
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Hype! The game is afoot!

Missions look pretty straightforward. It might be better to aim for the neutral mission this early on. Unless mafia really screws up, we don't have much chance of killing one d1, so by avoiding a lynch, we would be denying them a point.

Anyways, I am excited, but also very sleepy, so I will be back tomorrow.


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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
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Cool. I'm planning uphold a general No Lie Policy again. Is my natural inclination anyway, so might as well make it official. This means I will not ever make any outright lies about any aspect of this game other than my own alignment (and I will only lie about my alignment if it's necessary to protect my team). I can (and probably will) deflect, mislead, and omit information, but everything I say will be at least technically true (which is the best kind of truth, anyway).

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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:45 am 
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technically true is the best kind of true

i guess nlynch is the most likely neutral or pro-town outcome? depending on the setup i guess

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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
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It entirely depends on the amount of information town can gather without lynches. Assuming town has no useful info D1, no lynch is better than random lynch. However, there must come a point where information density is high enough that lynch is better (not to mention necessary to avoid scum majority). There's no easy way to determine when we reach that point, though. And since town info roles should avoid going public early, we will probably not know. N1 results will help us figure things out.

That said, we should not push through a quick NoLynch, because conversation is also information. If we're not going to get lynch info, we need every bit of alternative info we can get.

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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:11 am 
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at the moment given that we know next to nothing, a nlynch is the most likely pro- or neutral- town outcome for the day
im just waiting for more people to have an opportunity to participate and hopefully have more info

on another note, since oc chat is allowed i suspect a decent amount of this game will be occurring in those oc chats
i welcome any and all contacts, but probably won't be starting any myself

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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
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I don't like a lot of hidden information (thus the NLP), so I will not instigate any OC chats unless I feel I have a very good reason to do so. Will still participate if invited by someone, of course.

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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
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The game is afoot. Events will unfold no matter what now.

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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
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Obviously. The question is how much effort should be expended in attempts to control those events.

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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
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What happens if we lynch Shadow?


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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
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no-lynching will probably favour scum, though its questionable whether or not it will favour scum more than lynching will.

We'll hopefully have more to go off of by the end of the day, but tentatively I'm thinking it will be better to lynch. If this is anywhere close to a traditional mafia game (which it seems to be) then we'll need to find the mafia team using, in combination with other things, reads, and the day 1 lynch is an invaluable resource for generating those.

Denying the scum team a point seems like it might be comparatively lower value, although so little is known about the setup that its basically guesswork.

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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
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Minish wrote:
What happens if we lynch Shadow?

I suggest we experiment with that while we still have a solid chance

VOTE: RUBIK

I have reason to believe that Rubik is, in fact, Shadow. Actually, unless my role PM lied to me, I know it for a fact. As per the game rules he would currently be unaligned and join either us or Maf after day 5, simultaneously powering up.

My present belief is that he probably won't actually die before the turn, which would be more informative than a proper no-lynch. Or, if he does, it would likely fizzle the turn and render this a more normal game of mafia which would be more in-control for the town, who really don't need the maf to spontaneously get a member if doing well or buff if poorly. But I think the former result is more likely. If we lynch Shadow now, we're in a good place.

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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
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@rag: As I said previously, it all depends on if there are alternative info channels (although arguably OC chats is extra info, so we know that exists). I have long argued that in unknown setups (especially when we don't know how many/what kind of power roles exist) a D1 lynch could possibly bring less useful info than not lynching. I don't have enough data to know if it's true, but since this game has extra incentive to avoid mislynches, I think at least a single no lynch could be worth it.

However, again, only if there's enough discussion D1 to get us something to look back on. If there's not a good amount of talk when we get closer to deadline I'm totally ready to change tracks and lynch someone.

Ninja edit: well, that's interesting. Looking forward to seeing what reaction this gets.

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 Post subject: Re: Shadow the Hedgehog
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Why would your role pm identify who Shadow is?


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