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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:54 am 
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Dusky: Skystone
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:09 am 
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I was wondering about what happens if I die at night. You will most likely poof, and it's not guaranteed the game won't end then. If it always ended at the beggining of a new phase, your condition wouldn't make any sense (you couldn't lose).

Fact is, Skystone needs you to vote for me or he can't win. Only if I am forced to change roles away from you he can target me at all.

There is one way you could win. If you vote Skystone right before deadline and he has no time to exile you. ;) Question is how much before that he will feel forced to act.


Some actual facts:

1) Shock can be lynched, as you just admitted. He can therefore very easily lose 'normally', plus he can lose by being targeted by any of a horde of day abilities if the game ends during the day, plus he has to survive till the end of the game. That's hardly 'he can't lose', even if he survives the game ending via a night-kill.

2) I can win without Shock. It's just easier with his assistance.

3) Shock can never win by voting for me right before the deadline. I will simply exile him some number of minutes before the deadline arrives. Thus, Shock always loses by taking your advice.

4) If Shock can 'win' by sneak-voting for me, he can also do the same by sneak-voting for you. Moreover, if he votes for you, he still has the chance of winning because of my night kill.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:06 am 
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Alternative facts? ;)

I was obviously referring to the lose condition of being in exile, not not being able to lose at all. :bored:
You are telling him the game won't end while he's in exile at night, but you have no way of knowing that.

So how exactly are you going to win without him voting for me if you can't target either of us?

Number 3 is a bold lie! I know you miss deadlines all the time. :-P I, however, am way less likely to (don't deny it), so number 4 is a bigger risk.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:13 pm 
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Guess we're done here? 24 hour deadline.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:53 pm 
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*Thematic western music plays*

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:46 pm 
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Well. I'll be sure to check in 3 hours. ;)


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:08 pm 
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It's high noon...

Draw!

Vote: Skystone

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:19 pm 
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Nice.

Now let's hope he didn't react within the last 9 minutes.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:34 pm 
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And hope 15377 meant 24 hours... And not with an additional X minutes...

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:43 pm 
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Nah, it's always a straight number I just don't anticipate being around right at deadline when I say roughly.

Skystone is lynched. He was last mafia so the game is officially over. Larger post in coming sooner or later.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:56 pm 
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Whoohoo! Go town!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:09 pm 
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Above contains the original alignments and players of the game. Fred literally had like one post here and one post in the mafia QT which hindered Skystone quite a bit. He was semi-replaced by Zinger after I jokingly put Zinger on the player list and he responded by telling me to send him a role.

Zinger's Role


Zinger's role is pretty weak as a stand alone, but was designed to compliment Skystone's role and was the only role designed with a partnership in mind since Zings came in late and had a predetermined alignment. Sky's role worked off of creature cards pitched to the graveyard through other means as well, allowing him to generate abilities that weren't there at the start of the game similar to how KoD could as well.

At the time KoD blew the game up Zinger had stepped out as well, missing a full night and most of the game day that event took place, hindering Skystone yet again, which is why I took it upon myself to activate Fred's ability to retcon KoD blowing up the whole game. With that said, KoD obviously gets town MVP with his gamble as it single handedly would have taken out the entire mafia in that specific circumstance. Had Fred come back in time for the vote though he also would have single handedly given mafia the game as well. Much gamble.

The initial lack of flips at the start of the game was from the Rebirth function which would give the dead the option to come back with an additional survivor clause. It was designed to be offered until it was taken and after it was future flips would be revealed (this was to allow mafia the chance to come back under the Rebirth function as well without immediately being lynched again). It was original conceived when it looked like we'd be having a 7ish player game as an extension method and then just left in because why not.

Early in the game there were some mistakes on my part with regard to KoD and Dusky copying/using PaK's randomizer ability. This was during the time he refused to revote to see shenanigans and the mistake was caught before day ended with the only casualty being KoD didn't receive the ability to blow up the game a day earlier as his choice was randomized as well. This was remedied by editing in the correct votes in each vote count that day and refunding his expended counters. All I can say is don't try to run a game from your phone while you're at an amusement park. For reals.

That might be all I had to address. Feel free to question life now.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:33 pm 
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Hooray! Thanks for siding with town, Shock.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:06 pm 
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Even when Fred is afk I still get screwed over by him.

*Flashbacks to an arrow killing him four days later.*


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:33 am 
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What did KoD actually use to blow up game?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:27 am 
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That is a good question Aaarrrgh. Also kind of amused the last few lines from our troll mod.

No wonder you were having fun with us!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:10 am 
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@Arrgh:

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I gained a divinity counter and was immortal so long as I possessed it. I could sac it and kill all players that chose creatures as their cards.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:28 am 
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Well, I see now why my exile clause frustrated you. That was a beautiful chain of events, though. Just the kind of crazy I was hoping for when I signed up.

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How did dusky copy shock?
Exactly what caused shock to be exiled?
The day where dusky copied sky(no exile)
Dusky used sky's ability to copy zinger(no exile)
Dusky used the +1= exile was particularly weird Imho.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:12 am 
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Dusky and KoD's abilities were subtyped as upkeep choices to prevent shock from being exiled the entire game. The copy of zinger was another vacation miss on my part that I caught hours before deadline but as I told aaarrrgh I was just going to gloss over it since it didn't effect that days Lynch (ie shock wasn't a major contender nor was his vote a lynchpin vote).

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