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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:35 pm 
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Just announced on the Pro Tour.

The final core set is called "Magic: Origins".
It aims to be the most story-heavy core set and will tell the origin stories of Gideon, Jace, Liliana, Chandra and Nissa, letting us see who they were before they were walkers and how they became the people they are.

It will have more new cards than any other core set, and will have two brand new mechanics.

Only one detail has been made explicit to us:
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Liliana in her youth:
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Liliana, post-spark:
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Little Jace:
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Sorry for crappy pictures, my computer sucks.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:36 pm 
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Better pictures and release dates:
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:16 pm 
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This is from the official MTG Facebook page:
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This set will explore the origin stories for Gideon, Jace, Liliana, Chandra, and Nissa, all of whom are going to be playing a big role in our up-coming story arc.


So, looks like we are probably going to be going back to Zendikar next block.


This popped up on my facebook feed, as well:

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It is a higher quality shot of the young jace.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:51 pm 
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I hope it's the origin story of Jace's hooded cloak.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:09 pm 
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I... honestly am having a hard time being thrilled about hearing the origin stories of these characters...

Except Liliana. Let's be real, she's going to be the star of this set story-wise.

We already know Jace and Chandra's backstories and they're not all thaaat interesting and we have a good sense of Nissa's as well and nothing on Heaven, Hell, Faerie, or Earth is going to convince me that Nissa is an interesting character, and uh I dunno I'm not that into Gideon honestly.

But Liliana though, that's gonna be fun.


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I like how your first images were taken incognito mode, like you were too ashamed to have the official Wizards site in your history.

I'm interested in how they plan on showing these origins through the cards. Chances are it will go horribly, but I'm hopeful they load most of it toward the common/uncommon end.


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I like how your first images were taken incognito mode, like you were too ashamed to have the official Wizards site in your history.

I'm interested in how they plan on showing these origins through the cards. Chances are it will go horribly, but I'm hopeful they load most of it toward the common/uncommon end.

Some webpages have issues with cookies and don't work unless you clear your browser cache. Using incognito, which doesn't save information, can be easier than clearing your browser cache every time you want to visit a page. I do it for microsoft outlook myself.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:28 pm 
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I... honestly am having a hard time being thrilled about hearing the origin stories of these characters...
I, on the other hand, am distinctly thrilled to explore the worlds where they grew up.

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We already know Jace and Chandra's backstories and they're not all thaaat interesting
The thing is, you aren't really thinking of this in a larger context. This might be about them and we'll get some uncharted realms about their youth, but you have to look at the larger scale. It isn't just about them. The cards are going to be about their WORLDS and that is so much more interesting.

Except Nissa, because c'mon, we've seen Zendikar plenty already.
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and we have a good sense of Nissa's as well and nothing on Heaven, Hell, Faerie, or Earth is going to convince me that Nissa is an interesting character
You should really be more sympathetic to Nissa's story Keeper. You have to remember she was disowned by her parents and kicked out of her original tribe for being different and acting against the Joraga's cultural norms. She was abandoned to the wild and taken in by a different Joraga tribe altogether and then tried her absolute hardest to fit in to the point she internalized all their horrid expectations.
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But Liliana though, that's gonna be fun.
I only, quite honestly, have expectations for Liliana.
Because otherwise, as thrilled as I am, I am also FILLED WITH DREAD.
Because Gideon, Chandra, and Jace's backstory were all handled by OUT OF HOUSE WRITERS.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:16 pm 
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They should be alright so long as the new material predates the backstory given in the planeswalker novels. Here's to more from the Raven Man.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:22 pm 
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Cateran wrote:
They should be alright so long as the new material predates the backstory given in the planeswalker novels. Here's to more from the Raven Man.

I'm most worried about Gideon and Chandra there.
Chandra had a kind of narrow band, but Gideon had a LOT of his backstory divulged and it covered years and years of his early life. They've already demonstrated they don't mind smudging Gideon with things like his skin tone.

Jace I'm honestly not overly concerned about.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:27 pm 
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I mostly use Incognito a lot because I'm currently borrowing a laptop from a friend and like porn.

Anywho, Liliana's origin story is the one I'm most interested in.
Partly because we know the least about it,
partly because as a pre-mending walker they have a wider swath of time to work with,
partly because the picture they spoiled is WILDLY against my expectations and I want more.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:34 pm 
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Anywho, Liliana's origin story is the one I'm most interested in.
Partly because we know the least about it
Maybe about the exact circumstances of her ascension, but we know a lot about her life. (see below)
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partly because as a pre-mending walker they have a wider swath of time to work with,
partly because the picture they spoiled is WILDLY against my expectations and I want more.

Only about 200 years ago.
And... I don't know why prewalker Liliana should surprise you.
http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazi ... ature2/95a

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:43 pm 
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Hmmm....

I remember that comic existing, but it much different than I remember...


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- Makes me wonder if they're gonna pull a Venser (e.g. have a non-Planeswalker card about their past lives) with all the Planeswalkers in the roster. Coz for them to have these post-ascension arts as just pure PR? :wha:

- Putting my Vigilance to see if the Retcon Stick is gonna move for some of these origin stories.

- Happy for Gideon~! Could care less for the others.

- Interested to see which iconic creatures would get into this Core Set.

- Oh, and expecting a chunk of redeeming for Liliana with this core set.

"Sorry if I was a big beach in Innistrad... here's my sad backstory... please Love me more onegai~"

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:02 pm 
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Does Liliana need redeeming at this point in the storyline? Her main goal on Innistrad was getting at Griselbrand. As luck would have it, this had the side effect of freeing Avacyn. With Gideon, I'm hoping we see what events gave him the ability to look at a cause like Aurelia's fanatics and decide that it is worth his time fixing. Maybe some more background on the Order of Heliud as well.

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Cateran wrote:
With Gideon, I'm hoping we see what events gave him the ability to look at a cause like Aurelia's fanatics and decide that it is worth his time fixing. Maybe some more background on the Order of Heliud as well.

I'd be honestly surprised if they do touch up more on Gideon's dealings with the Boros. It always felt a bit random and blah to me.

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It's not that I'm unsympathetic to Nissa, I just don't care that much about Nissa >_> She's just... nooot a character I'm super into?

All the characters I want to see more of are dead or fan characters >_<

Maybe the worlds will be interesting but I dunno I never had in my heart this great desire to know what Jace's home plane was like since mostly it just seemed like a Generic Fantasy Village? Either it'll be the same and boring or different and retconned :/

Honestly if they just focused solely on Liliana and added new 'walkers for this core set I'd be more into it. [shrug]

But they made me care about a time travel block so miracles can happen :P


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:11 pm 
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Moppi wrote:
Cateran wrote:
With Gideon, I'm hoping we see what events gave him the ability to look at a cause like Aurelia's fanatics and decide that it is worth his time fixing. Maybe some more background on the Order of Heliud as well.

I'd be honestly surprised if they do touch up more on Gideon's dealings with the Boros. It always felt a bit random and blah to me.


Not the Boros directly, but whatever development occurred that allowed Gideon to look past the extremes (excess and zealotry) to see something worthwhile. The Boros were the best example that came to mind.

Nissa didn't get the best writer the first time around...but elves aren't a group that interest me all that much,

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