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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:24 pm 
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More likely because he's simply an obsessed nutter who prioritizes Urborg and nature in general.

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Question about the Windgrace planeswalker card. In Planar Chaos, Windgrace was kind of like a planeswalking maro spirit, right? Might that be why WOTC decided to give Windgrace's card a 'lands matter' theme?

I just read Planar Chaos recently, and I wouldn't describe him as a maro spirit in that book. He was, however, obsessed with protecting Urborg and eliminating all artifice from it.

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Question about the Windgrace planeswalker card. In Planar Chaos, Windgrace was kind of like a planeswalking maro spirit, right? Might that be why WOTC decided to give Windgrace's card a 'lands matter' theme?

I just read Planar Chaos recently, and I wouldn't describe him as a maro spirit in that book. He was, however, obsessed with protecting Urborg and eliminating all artifice from it.

No more than Freyalise or many other nutters with too much power.

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 Post subject: Re: Uncharted Realms
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No story today.

I'm starting to get extremely annoyed. As much as I like this storyline, if Dominaria had to be rushed for it you could at least have the decency of having everything ready already.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:51 pm 
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I miss when supplemental sets at least were kind enough to have a story during their preview weeks. I'd love a Magic Story about one of the new 'Walkers or legends, or to have a throw-back story for Lord Windgrace.....

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At least Aminatou got some personality description today, kind of annoyed there’s NO lore on Estrid.


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kind of annoyed there’s NO lore on Estrid.

Headcannon time!

The lore is that we'll be getting "Legends of Innistrad: Estrid's Mask" next time around. Naturally, it will involve Emrakul's attempt to free herself by crashing the moon into Thraben. Emmy will be using Estrid as (or to make) a pawn.

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At least Aminatou got some personality description today, kind of annoyed there’s NO lore on Estrid.

Despise everything about Aminatou except the bits they ganked off my character from the MEM.

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kind of annoyed there’s NO lore on Estrid.

Headcannon time!

The lore is that we'll be getting "Legends of Innistrad: Estrid's Mask" next time around. Naturally, it will involve Emrakul's attempt to free herself by crashing the moon into Thraben. Emmy will be using Estrid as (or to make) a pawn.


Aren’t there 4 main vampire tribes? Maybe it’ll turn out they each have a mask our heroes need to stop the moon.

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At least Aminatou got some personality description today, kind of annoyed there’s NO lore on Estrid.

Despise everything about Aminatou except the bits they ganked off my character from the MEM.


I know that you tend to not like kids in fantasy settings (like Domri) but what don’t you like about her specifically? Personally I don’t like that she seems too strong. She has way too much power and a power like hers seems like it could have weird ramifications on things to come. Also not a fan of how her power manifests as a “destiny moth”. That just seems weird.

I would have preferred early scarlet witch with occasional probability stuff and maybe a short sight into the future. Her cards could mechanically scry small amounts and still manipulate the top of your library without it really changing who she is.


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 Post subject: Re: Uncharted Realms
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At least Aminatou got some personality description today, kind of annoyed there’s NO lore on Estrid.

Despise everything about Aminatou except the bits they ganked off my character from the MEM.


I know that you tend to not like kids in fantasy settings (like Domri) but what don’t you like about her specifically? Personally I don’t like that she seems too strong. She has way too much power and a power like hers seems like it could have weird ramifications on things to come. Also not a fan of how her power manifests as a “destiny moth”. That just seems weird.

I would have preferred early scarlet witch with occasional probability stuff and maybe a short sight into the future. Her cards could mechanically scry small amounts and still manipulate the top of your library without it really changing who she is.

Well, the article irritated me a great bit, partly because it was just trying SO DAMN HARD to make a point and that always crawls my goat.
But mostly it's that she's a child.
In fairness, I have to unpack that statement.
Yes, she's a child and I just don't like children characters, but it's 2 parts that her powers AND her character mean there's no story in MTG that you can tell with her. She's immensely wasted potential in her powerset, but practically speaking she doesn't FIT as something you can actually use in a story.

Nothing will challenge her because they won't do anything THAT heinous to a child, but also her powers make her bulletproof in the first place. Additionally, they're trying to walk the line between creepy and whimsy and that's tone deaf for a Magic setting to start with.

Also I'm biased because I did it better.

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 Post subject: Re: Uncharted Realms
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Well, the article irritated me a great bit, partly because it was just trying SO DAMN HARD to make a point and that always crawls my goat.


I see that. That’s fair.

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Yes, she's a child and I just don't like children characters, but it's 2 parts that her powers AND her character mean there's no story in MTG that you can tell with her. She's immensely wasted potential in her powerset, but practically speaking she doesn't FIT as something you can actually use in a story.

Nothing will challenge her because they won't do anything THAT heinous to a child, but also her powers make her bulletproof in the first place. Additionally, they're trying to walk the line between creepy and whimsy and that's tone deaf for a Magic setting to start with.

Also I'm biased because I did it better.


I didn’t even consider the kind of stories they could tell AROUND her. I think it’s a major part of her character that she’s a child but maybe it would be nice if they aged her a bit. And I think we agree that her powers likely make her nigh untouchable.

Which M:EM character is that? I’ll have to go read.


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I see that. That’s fair.

The same scenario cropped up with Kaya too.
I like Kaya though, so I didn't consider the Soapbox she was meant to be until the article came out talking about it.

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I didn’t even consider the kind of stories they could tell AROUND her. I think it’s a major part of her character that she’s a child but maybe it would be nice if they aged her a bit. And I think we agree that her powers likely make her nigh untouchable.

Aside from a one shot explicitly about her, I can't think of any way to properly use her.

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Alessa Rehn.
The first story is one you can probably skip, it's shoddy by my standards.

Her origin is told in "Gifts"* and a longer work featuring her is "Wild Cards" before finally turning up in the Beryl saga.

*For the record, this one gets dark...

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Today's UR (Magic Story): Chronicle of Bolas: A Familiar Stranger

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When Yasova and the twins reach Ugin’s grave at last, they find a mysterious-and potentially deadly-stranger awaiting their arrival.

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How do you all feel about Windgrace's colors? I was between BGR and RW myself.

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He is a master of mana after all, even if his signatures are . For the longest time I just assumed he was ; makes the most logical sense to compromise between his proficiency at mana with his hatred of artifacts and general helpfulness.

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Yeah, I always s pegged Windgrace as as well.

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Then again, his species general alignment, the aforementioned mastery in mana and his anti-artifact stance makes the undeniable.

Maybe we'll get a card eventually where he is four-coloured. Everything but makes sense to me.

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But general Dominarian catfolk were. motivations also continue in the supposedly aligned Windgrace disciples, so one can assume that Lord Windgrace, having lived since Urborg was a forest and having access to mana his kin doesn't have, continues to be aligned with .

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Urborg cat warriors were certainly green.

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