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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:39 am 
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PM sent.

I'll bump this thread later if the dialogue slows down or stops. Any other mods who are willing to dialogue about this are more than welcome to do so.


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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:25 am 
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while I've made my stance on this fairly clear in the CotW thread, I figured I'd point out that this:

Rubik wrote:
(despite the fact that making a poll requires making a new thread)
isn't right, you can add a poll at any time by editing the OP of the thread.

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:41 am 
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I'd like to chime in with my opinion as an outside viewer.

The thread in question isn't what I would define as spam or malicious. Rubik created a contest (admittedly, an apparently joke contest) in which plenty of users participated. It's common practice for our contests to have separate voting threads created afterwards to direct attention to them. The cards that won from that contest were added to our weekly forum contest, but denied entry because they didn't fit the spirit of that contest, which I feel is ultimately fine and within the discretion of the contest host to decide. This denial doesn't mean that the new thread shouldn't exist, even as a parody.

That said, Rubik, you've garnered a reputation as a spammer. I don't really know your posting habits, yet I've heard about it from multiple forum members from the WOTC days. I'm not sure whether or not this is a fair assessment, but it exists. What I would have liked to see from moderation in regards to this thread's closure is the following: (1) An explanation of why the thread in question is being closed. (2) Instruction or suggestion on alternatives, namely the fact that the original thread could have its original post edited to include a poll. (It can, Rubik; I just double-checked.) (3) Clear correspondence between Rubik and the mod in question. I don't actually know what our moderation policies are here; I haven't been much involved. When I say clear, I don't necessarily mean transparent. The issue can be handled over PM.

If any of the mods could respond to the policies I've questioned, I'd appreciate hearing about it all.

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:16 am 
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@Razor: Making a poll in the same thread as the submissions is a surefire way to decrease poll awareness for voters.

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@Rush: Back on WotC, I posted on KoS, but I kept any spamming I did limited to that forum. I was primarily an RPer and the majority of my 9000+ posts on Wizards were from RPing. I was by no means someone who spammed anywhere that didn't allow for it.

I appreciate your support; I'm currently talking to GobO_Althalus about this issue in PMs.


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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:18 am 
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Okay. I didn't intend on making you out to be a spammer; I just heard you were back when we all WOTC'd together.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:48 am 
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Rubik is less of a spammer than me.

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:38 pm 
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I'd like to suggest an amendment to the CoC that would let everyone get along amicably.


Code of Conduct: Section One: Content
The moderators and staff of No Goblins Allowed strive to create a welcoming environment open to all those interested in tabletop games and the creative opportunities they afford. We have a low tolerance for content. This means (among other things):

Do not post.
Do not create.
This is out of necessity.
You will not receive an official warning from the moderators for posting in a language. However, repeatedly running afoul of this rule could result in a warning for spamming.

This policy encompasses all content posted directly to the site, including but not limited to forum posts, the wiki, avatars, user names, signatures, and private messages.






I think with this simple change we can solve a lot of problems and grow as a community.




On a serious note, this was just a cute observation of what can be done with paraphrasing! "See, the rules say, Do not post!". :D

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:34 pm 
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I was hoping to get more than one reply today. Hopefully the dialogue continues.


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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:37 am 
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Rubik wrote:
I was hoping to get more than one reply today. Hopefully the dialogue continues.
It does, but the boards have to play second fiddle to my actual job and the rest of my offline life most days, and to make matters worse I tend to be an incredibly inefficient writer--I take waaaay more time carefully trying to articulate things than I imagine most people probably do, with a lot of writing, editing, tweaking, rewriting, and walking away for a minute or two and pondering what to say next or how to word things to get my point across.

This post, for example? A solid fifteen minutes. No, wait, make that twenty once I take into account the time I just took to check to see exactly how much time it's taken so far and to write and edit this little addendum. I need to quit now while I'm ahead.

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:07 pm 
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Fair enough. There are only so many hours in a day.


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Rubik wrote:
Fair enough. There are only so many hours in a day.

24, in fact.

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Rubik wrote:
Fair enough. There are only so many hours in a day.

24, in fact.

24 and 1/86400 Hours today though.

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Rubik wrote:
Fair enough. There are only so many hours in a day.

24, in fact.

24 and 1/86400 Hours today though.

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
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Rubik wrote:
I was hoping to get more than one reply today. Hopefully the dialogue continues.
It does, but the boards have to play second fiddle to my actual job and the rest of my offline life most days, and to make matters worse I tend to be an incredibly inefficient writer--I take waaaay more time carefully trying to articulate things than I imagine most people probably do, with a lot of writing, editing, tweaking, rewriting, and walking away for a minute or two and pondering what to say next or how to word things to get my point across.

This post, for example? A solid fifteen minutes. No, wait, make that twenty once I take into account the time I just took to check to see exactly how much time it's taken so far and to write and edit this little addendum. I need to quit now while I'm ahead.

That sounds about normal for me. A post about 1.5x your size takes me 30-40 minutes, and that's not including any breaktime that may occur in the middle (I frequently get called away by meatspace for minutes to half an hour at a time).


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