It is currently Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:42 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 233 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ... 12  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:50 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jun 08, 2016
Posts: 618
Location: noun, a particular place or position
Identity: Protozoan
Preferred Pronoun Set: Soup/Soup's/Soupself
Yeah, it's not like Barney and I are exactly prompt about testing and berating supplicants. This time, I will follow similar testing methodology. Additional consideration will be given to decks with both broken cards, but if they lose consistently, Cucho, then they may not necessarily win.

Lost ranks will be penalized by the addition of insults to the deck review on a one-to-one loss/insult basis.

_________________
Sshhh! I'm two goblins in a trenchcoat!


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:00 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: May 29, 2017
Posts: 379
Okay, I think it's between my Simic Ramp to Efficiency and Izzet Thopter Prowess now. Nothing against Requisitioner, but these are just super fun, and they're rolling over everything at R40. I just outraced a 15/15 trampling Hydra with the izzet! And ground through an Always Watching + Gisela with the Simic, without the benefit of a third land until about 20 cards in. I don't think I've lost a match with either that hasn't been entirely due to extreme mana issues. Barney and Soup, which of these would you rather play?

Thopter Prowess
Creatures: 18
2 x Bomat Courier
2 x Abbot of Keral Keep
4 x Reckless Fireweaver
3 x Stormchaser Mage
3 x Esperzoa
3 x Thopter Engineer
1 x Jori En, Ruin Diver

Spells: 22
2 x Renegade Map
1 x Heart of Kiran
2 x Smuggler's Copter
1 x Throne of the God-Pharaoh
2 x Alchemist's Vial
2 x Aethersphere Harvester
2 x Fevered Visions
1 x Saheeli Rai
2 x Fleetwheel Cruiser
3 x Efficient Construction
2 x Start Your Engines
1 x Chandra, Torch of Defiance
1 x Skysovereign, Consul Flagship

Lands: 20
5 x Island
8 x Mountain
2 x Wandering Fumarole
1 x Westvale Abbey
2 x Sulfur Falls
1 x Inventors' Fair
1 x Aether Hub


Ramp to Efficiency
Creatures: 17
1 x Oviya Pashiri, Sage Lifecrafter
2 x Deathcap Cultivator
4 x Druid of the Cowl
3 x Chief of the Foundry
2 x Tireless Tracker
1 x Padeem, Consul of Innovation
3 x Whirler Rogue
1 x Metalwork Colossus

Spells: 24
4 x Renegade Map
1 x Heart of Kiran
2 x Smuggler's Copter
1 x Key to the City
2 x Throne of the God-Pharaoh
2 x Sigil of Valor
2 x Cultivator's Caravan
2 x Aethersphere Harvester
1 x Fleetwheel Cruiser
3 x Efficient Construction
2 x Thopter Spy Network
1 x Skysovereign, Consul Flagship
1 x Tamiyo's Journal

Land: 19
9 x Island
6 x Forest
2 x Hinterland Harbor
1 x Westvale Abbey
1 x Inventors' Fair


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:50 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr 24, 2017
Posts: 538
I personally like the Izzet thopters more... but you got not removal whatsoever on either of them!

_________________
:planeswalker:


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:11 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: May 29, 2017
Posts: 379
Nope, we're racing, evading, pinging and chumping all the way!

I think there can be an advantage to not running removal in aggressive resilient decks like these in duels. At the top of the ladder your opponent is probably slowing down to play around removal whether or not you have it in your hand, and you aren't left holding useless pieces if you run into control.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:18 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Nov 10, 2013
Posts: 9389
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
This no removal garbage is what cost me games last time! In this case go with the faster deck which is the thopter deck. Why would I want metalwork colossus if I can't get rid of his chump blockers?!

Also esperzoa seems weird without max copies of vial but ok, looking forward to trying it!

_________________
DCG-MTG wrote:
There's a limited amount of fun to be had in a single game, and this deck will ensure no one has any of it.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:08 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: May 29, 2017
Posts: 379
You use Whirler Rogues or Key on the Colossus of course!

But Esperzoa doesn't have to be a combo piece all the time; 3cc for a 4/3 flyer is a damn bargain, worth losing a token or bouncing a small artifact for upkeep. especially with all the vehicles, you can stack a crew on the bounce. Add an engineer in play and the downside is really minimal.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:37 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jun 08, 2016
Posts: 618
Location: noun, a particular place or position
Identity: Protozoan
Preferred Pronoun Set: Soup/Soup's/Soupself
Blah blah blah... Barney and Soup, which of these would you rather play?

Hey, hey, hey! No one's paying me to think and make decisions based on merits! I'm paid for my articliolation and goodness of words and for my devastating good looks.

You make your own decision and whatever you pick, I'll belittle you for making the wrong choice.

_________________
Sshhh! I'm two goblins in a trenchcoat!


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:01 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr 24, 2017
Posts: 538

_________________
:planeswalker:


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:26 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jun 08, 2016
Posts: 618
Location: noun, a particular place or position
Identity: Protozoan
Preferred Pronoun Set: Soup/Soup's/Soupself
Guys, I don't see a lot of Sly Requisitioner going on in these decks. It's almost like you all think it's a bad card or something.

_________________
Sshhh! I'm two goblins in a trenchcoat!


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:16 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: May 29, 2017
Posts: 379
Mine is back on page 2, knock yourself out!


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:02 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Feb 29, 2016
Posts: 2290
Location: Portugal
soupcannon wrote:
Guys, I don't see a lot of Sly Requisitioner going on in these decks. It's almost like you all think it's a bad card or something.


That's because it is...

Anyway, I've submitted my deck. Now Barney and Soup (sounds like a brand name), be gentle because this deck is a never been played before virgin. So be gentlemen-like and treat it gentle with some tender loving care and the Requisitioner may just let you guys get to 2nd base. ;)

_________________
Give me land, Give me fire, Give me that which I desire! :mage:
My Duels Youtube Channel


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:14 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Oct 02, 2015
Posts: 644
soupcannon wrote:
Guys, I don't see a lot of Sly Requisitioner going on in these decks. It's almost like you all think it's a bad card or something.


Hehe. Last night, I went back to the first version of my Requisitioner build and took out the Requisitioners and some of the junk I had in there to support them. It works way better now.

“Who Requisitioned This?!”


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:25 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jun 08, 2016
Posts: 618
Location: noun, a particular place or position
Identity: Protozoan
Preferred Pronoun Set: Soup/Soup's/Soupself
Haven_pt wrote:
Now Barney and Soup (sounds like a brand name), be gentle because excuses, excuses, excuses.

Incorrect, Harvey_PrimalTerrier. Barney and Soup sounds like local morning radio DJs who aren't quite funny enough to make it as small-town stand up comedians.

Flaky, can you do up all the submitted lists in one post? I am too absent-minded brave to go through and reliably find all the decklists.

_________________
Sshhh! I'm two goblins in a trenchcoat!


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:38 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Nov 10, 2013
Posts: 9389
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Yes please Flaky when you're ready (no rush, I really hope MCG participates), make up all the decks in one official post that I can just print off.

And be sure to tune in every morning to Barney & Soup on CJAD 96.9FM. Helping you get up when you're down.

Image


If you'd like to hear a piece of what our show sounds like, there's a small extract of our previous morning radio show we did together called Mikey & The Badger. Listen it, it starts at 14:08 when John Oliver even mentionned our show!!


_________________
DCG-MTG wrote:
There's a limited amount of fun to be had in a single game, and this deck will ensure no one has any of it.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:41 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Feb 16, 2017
Posts: 105
Identity: Walker of Planes
Preferred Pronoun Set: Anything but Dave-O
I learned something while making this deck. Magic is not, in fact, a zero sum game. There's a limited amount of fun to be had in a single game, and this deck will ensure no one has any of it. I tried a few builds that included (read: tolerated) Efficient Construction, but none were "breaking" the card. The next logical step, then, was to make it effectively my only win-con.

Methodical Construction

Artifacts (19):
4 Renegade Map
4 Implement of Combustion
4 Alchemist's Vial
3 Filigree Familiar
4 Implement of Examination

Interaction (14):
4 Metallic Rebuke
3 Lightning Axe
2 Imprisoned in the Moon
1 Kozilek's Return
1 Radiant Flames
3 Unlicensed Disintegration

Enchantments (7):
2 Pia's Revolution
3 Efficient Construction
2 Thopter Spy Network

Lands (20):
2 Drowned Catacomb
2 Sulfur Falls
2 Dragonskull Summit
7 Island
6 Mountain
1 Swamp

Game plan: Use cantrips and Maps as required to hit land drops early, leaving them on the field where possible to enable Rebukes. Efficient Construction is critical - after it's down, cantrips make for a limitless supply of chump blockers. Spy Network functions as a slower EC for the most part, but its card draw leads to cantrips leads to more EC thopters.

Pia's Revolution can lead to early wins if Opp gets greedy and denies artifacts. Doesn't take many bolts to the face before Disintegrations and thopters can sneak in the last few points. If Opp opts out of the bolt-to-the-face program, the cantrips just come right back and make EC thopters on the way.

Lightning Axe does a nice job of making late game Rebukes look less awful, and Disintegration played well enough to justify the splash for it alone.



Lost track of the exact record somewhere around my third rum and coke, but I believe it was 8-6 with one loss due to a pretty egregious punt. Lots of room for improvement, but I kept the list pretty plain to make sure EC was the highlight.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:44 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Oct 02, 2015
Posts: 644
I’ve got some stuffs I should be doing and I really am hoping for DCG to send me a list too. I’ll post the decks sometime this evening.

Woah! He posted in the time it took me to write this reply. Yay!


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:53 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Nov 10, 2013
Posts: 9389
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
omg that deck looks even worse than Flaky's last submission

_________________
DCG-MTG wrote:
There's a limited amount of fun to be had in a single game, and this deck will ensure no one has any of it.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:06 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Feb 16, 2017
Posts: 105
Identity: Walker of Planes
Preferred Pronoun Set: Anything but Dave-O
omg that deck looks even worse than Flaky's last submission


You haven't truly lived until you've cast a single Renegade Map seven times in one game.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:07 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Feb 29, 2016
Posts: 2290
Location: Portugal
What were WotC thinking when they made the Requisitioner?

"Ooh! We have a really great idea for a card to waste an uncommon slot! It's perfect for those Duels guys that have a limited cardpool and rarity restrictions!"

"Yay for over-costed grizzly bears that have nearly unusable abilities and one in flavour key word. Those johnnies over at NGA will certainly have a blast trying and failing to break this one. I bet money on this!"

_________________
Give me land, Give me fire, Give me that which I desire! :mage:
My Duels Youtube Channel


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:08 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Feb 29, 2016
Posts: 2290
Location: Portugal
DCG-MTG wrote:
omg that deck looks even worse than Flaky's last submission


You haven't truly lived until you've cast a single Renegade Map seven times in one game.


I've done that, and the same Vial too. Lol

_________________
Give me land, Give me fire, Give me that which I desire! :mage:
My Duels Youtube Channel


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 233 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ... 12  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group