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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:11 pm 
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Ah well. I figured that the deck would fall under " If the card is too weak to break, the deck should at least incorporate it into a broader strategy that plays to the card’s effects." Basically, I figured that the damage component of course plays to agro (Which I generally don't like) and I tried to take advantage of the cards secondary ability of producing Diamond Mana. That is why I went heavy Eldrazi.

Back to the drawing board.


Actually, The card does damage and produces colorless mana... So I guess exploiting colorless mana counts towards the breaking of the card, but I guess you really have to do more than 1 damage with it for maximum breakage.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:21 pm 
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Flaky... I had more respect for you when you where a sadistic bastard... but thanks for scratching that rule... I was pretty focused on Ramp
here is the pile at the moment.

Landslide
Creature(8)
2 x Walking Ballista
2 x Reclamation Sage
1 x Nissa, Vastwood Seer
1 x Greenwarden of Murasa
1 x Oblivion Sower
1 x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger

Instant(4)
4 x Fog

Sorcery(10)
2 x Nissa's Pilgrimage
2 x Yahenni's Expertise
2 x Languish
2 x Explosive Vegetation
2 x Nissa's Renewal

Split(4)
2 x Cut
2 x Never

Enchantment(8)
3 x Retreat to Hagra
2 x Gift of Paradise
1 x Cruel Reality
2 x Sandwurm Convergence

Planeswalker(1)
1 x Nissa, Vital Force

Land(25)
4 x Swamp
1 x Mountain
8 x Forest
2 x Hissing Quagmire
2 x Woodland Cemetery
4 x Sunscorched Desert
4 x Evolving Wilds

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:19 pm 
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Very much a work in progress, but if you can stabilise, it is quite fun. Herald of the Pantheon is pretty meh so far. Maybe just Elvish Visionaries?

Orrery:a mechanical model of the solar system

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Sunscorched Desert Deck:

Takes advantage via:
Animist's awakening
Stoic Builder
Pulse of Murasa
Orrery
Gitrog
Nissa Vital Force
Greenwarden
Ulvenwald Hydra

Creature(17)
2x Walking Ballista
2x Herald of the Pantheon
2x Sylvan Advocate
1x Stoic Builder
2x Tireless Tracker
1x Nissa, Vastwood Seer
1x Mindwrack Demon
1x Ishkanah, Grafwidow
1x The Gitrog Monster
1x Greenwarden of Murasa
1x Ulvenwald Hydra
1x Oblivion Sower
1x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger

Instant(1)
1x Pulse of Murasa

Sorcery(5)
1x Animist's Awakening
2x Languish
2x Creeping Mold

Split(2)
2x Never

Enchantment(6)
3x Retreat to Hagra
3x Retreat to Kazandu

Planeswalker(1)
1x Nissa, Vital Force

Artifact(2)
2x Ghirapur Orrery

Land(26)
4x Swamp
2x Hissing Quagmire
8x Forest
2x Woodland Cemetery
2x Evolving Wilds
2x Rogue's Passage
2x Drownyard Temple
4x Sunscorched Desert

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:10 am 
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I see we share some choices Mowie :) is delirium working in yours? if it is I think that´s the spikier approach, on mine I killed the Fogs... I just fogging hate them... and I hate myself when I play them.
How is Animist's Awakening working for you... I chopped it really early.. its just such a pain in the ass to pay 9 CMC, show all your game plan and sometimes not even get one land -for real!-

I must say I´m having a blast playing with this pile... but my rank is on a free fall :rofl:
Maybe I will try something else before the dead line, not sure if I got the time to make it work tho..

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:50 am 
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Same here Cucho :) (enjoying playing but ranking in a fall). The Retreats are just sooo slow, and while Hagra/Ballista is a awesome feeling late game (especially if you bring back Ballista from graveyard), it is not something you can rely on. I <3 Gitrog so much. She really is the coolest card ever. Animist Awakening is a good late game bomb in this deck (I've hit 5 lands before and Hagra lifedrained opponent out), but yes a total blech early game.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:20 am 
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My Simic idea ain’t cutting it. It barely scrapes by vs ai, not even gonna try on the ladder. Coralhelm is just bleh with our cardpool. You know what we really need? Fastbond and some Moonfolk action. Then we could really break this derpy card!

I’ma go try a Gruul landfall beats build now...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:09 am 
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I think I've got something going on here:


1 x Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
3 x Censor
2 x Eldrazi Displacer
3 x Wall of Resurgence
1 x Kefnet the Mindful
2 x Scatter to the Winds
3 x Broken Concentration
2 x Spell Shrivel
2 x Aether Tradewinds
1 x Gideon of the Trials
2 x Commit
3 x Glimmer of Genius
1 x Disciple of the Ring
2 x Confirm Suspicions
1 x Jace, Unraveler of Secrets
2 x Planar Outburst
2 x Tragic Arrogance
1 x Torrential Gearhulk
1 x Endbringer
1 x Crush of Tentacles

5 x Plains
7 x Island
2 x Prairie Stream
2 x Glacial Fortress
2 x Geier Reach Sanitarium
2 x Aether Hub
4 x Sunscorched Desert


Cause the only thing more annoying than playing against control is playing against control with Walls, and the only way I can enjoy running it is to use very silly cards.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:28 pm 
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Just thought of combo... Its lame and not really that effective, but it should do multiple damage with only 1 Desert:
Eldrazi Displacer and embodiment of insight.
Drop a Land, make the Desert a creature, blink it, then repeat with however much Land you have. I Doubt it, but if the blue retreat's triggers worked correctly, it could become rather interesting...
Still a way to potentially abuse landfall triggers... Put it in a ramp shell and it could be quasi-playable. A blink shell could maybe work too...

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:57 am 
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LANDSLIDE 1.1
Landslide

Creature(12)
2x Walking Ballista
2x Sylvan Advocate
2x Reclamation Sage
2x Tireless Tracker
1x Nissa, Vastwood Seer
1x Greenwarden of Murasa
1x Oblivion Sower
1x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger

Sorcery(10)
2x Nissa's Pilgrimage
2x Yahenni's Expertise
2x Languish
2x Explosive Vegetation
2x Nissa's Renewal

Split(4)
2x Cut
2x Never

Enchantment(8)
3x Retreat to Hagra
2x Gift of Paradise
1x Cruel Reality
2x Sandwurm Convergence

Planeswalker(1)
1x Nissa, Vital Force

Land(25)
4x Swamp
1x Mountain
8x Forest
2x Hissing Quagmire
2x Woodland Cemetery
4x Sunscorched Desert
4x Evolving Wilds

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:04 am 
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Hey Nomad that pile looks good!
there´s a solid Azorious control deck on the foundations.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:09 pm 
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Thanks Cucho. Think it might need something else for early control, but it's a tradeoff. I don't really want to get into Essence Flux, cause that's just taking away creatures from the sweepers later. Has anyone tried Glory-Bound Initiate in control? Probably good for some life and/or drawing Fatal Push away from the lands.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:37 pm 
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I think Blessed Alliance is better in a control shell

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:24 pm 
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Been tinkering with Gruul Beats for a while now. I think I've found one that is fun to play and puts a strong emphasis on playing (and replaying) lands. Haven't tried it on the ladder yet, tho, and its def in the midrange category which is sort of a no man's land right now.

Here's where I'm at:

Creeps:
2 x Sylvan Advocate
4 x Makindi Sliderunner
1 x Nissa, Vastwood Seer
1 x Rhonas the Indomitable
2 x Tireless Tracker
2 x Mina and Denn, Wildborn
3 x Grove Rumbler
1 x Samut, Voice of Dissent
2 x Reality Smasher
1 x Ulvenwald Hydra
1 x Omnath, Locus of Rage

Spells:
3 x Slab Hammer
3 x Harnessed Lightning
3 x Devour in Flames
3 x Nissa's Pilgrimage
2 x Explosive Vegetation

Other Goodies:
3 x Slab Hammer
1 x Ghirapur Orrery
1 x Nissa, Vital Force

Land:
5 x Mountain
6 x Forest
2 x Cinder Glade
2 x Rootbound Crag
1 x Looming Spires
4 x Evolving Wilds
4 x Sunscorched Desert

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:42 pm 
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So a couple of swaps here and there... and I think this pile is close to been done.

Landslide 2.0

Landslide
Creature(11)
2 x Walking Ballista
2 x Deathcap Cultivator
2 x Reclamation Sage
2 x Tireless Tracker
1 x Nissa, Vastwood Seer
1 x Greenwarden of Murasa
1 x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger

Sorcery(11)
2 x Nissa's Pilgrimage
2 x Yahenni's Expertise
2 x Languish
1 x Diabolic Tutor
2 x Explosive Vegetation
2 x Nissa's Renewal

Split(4)
2 x Cut
2 x Never

Enchantment(7)
3 x Retreat to Hagra
2 x Gift of Paradise
2 x Sandwurm Convergence

Planeswalker(2)
1 x Ob Nixilis Reignited
1 x Nissa, Vital Force

Land(25)
6 x Swamp
1 x Mountain
10 x Forest
2 x Hissing Quagmire
2 x Woodland Cemetery
4 x Sunscorched Desert

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Omnath! Omnath! You're so close!


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Om-nom-nom-nath, Locus of HANGRY!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:05 am 
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Hi guys, sorry I’ve been off my game with this round. New puppy still won’t let me sleep more than 3-4 hrs at a time which sucks bc I tend to have a hard time falling asleep. And when we’re awake she requires a LOT of attention. And she’s realized she’s cute enough to get away with murder. Alas, I’m not, so I have to keep hiding the bodies for her and playing dumb when the police come around. Its very stressful.

I’ve updated the OP with rule change and extended deadline.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:12 pm 
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Dont sweat on it buddy, this is pretty casual so lets not stress ourselves...

Hey Nomad/Flaky... do you guys really think the Jelly man fits on this pile?
I think it will affect the mana base to much... and I´m finally having some decent results with it, I can see the synergy.. but the swap is not so clear to me...

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:46 pm 
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Nah. Honestly, I'd prolly cut the Cuts, too. That single mountain seems so out of place in an otherwise Golgari build. That would also let you take out the Gift of Paradise. I'd add 1-2 more Pilgrimage (prolly 1 to start and see how it goes) and 2-3 more removals or maybe 2 removals and a bomb? Also, what is the Tutor for? You don't find it to be too slow?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:47 pm 
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The cuts... are just fine but the Ribbons those are awesome they are basically a wincon and they have won more than a few games for me, the gifs are there coz ... more often than you think I end up not having more lands to fetch and they have also helped a lot with the BB in the early game.

I see what you think of tutor... and trust me I think its slow too...-this is the first deck it has fight his place for me- but it has the best synergy with Greenwarden and its just so awesome to topdeck it when you are sitting on a **** of mana.

This last pile is winning its place back to the top of the ladder so I´m leaving it be for a while.. I will revisit the Jelly man later on.
I think I´m just having fun with it so far...Retreat to Hagra... it´s amazing on a ramp shell!!! I can hear the moaning of the opponents when they have to unmake that filthy Jank!

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