It is currently Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:53 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:53 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Sep 28, 2016
Posts: 1747
Preferred Pronoun Set: he/him/his/his/himself
Double Strike - Windfury
Haste - Charge
Surge - Combo
Deathtouch - Poisonous
Lifelink - Lifesteal
Enrage - Enrage

Note 1: It's progressively more and more blatant.
Note 2: When MTG uses HS ideas, it usully changes them somewhat, probably intentionally: MTG enrage
is a repeatable trigger while HS's is usually a static, Surge is alternative cost while Combo is extra effect, Last Reckoning cycle doubletaps all lands, not just some, and so on. However, when HS uses MTG ideas, sometimes it's 100% exact copy, even with obvious imperfections: for example, Lifelink is weird for technical reasons (5/5 vampire gains you 5 life by eating a 1/1; Vampire gives life to YOU instead of healing ITSELF), and Hearthstone, while digital and less limited by rule complexity, and with appropriate damage system, copied that stuff too.

_________________
nice quotes from this forum


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:50 am 
Offline
Member

Joined: Oct 13, 2015
Posts: 1819
None of those effects are unusual for a card game to hit upon regardless. Double strike and windfury are really quite different.

I really do not think MtG's enrage is inspired by Hearthstone's.

You think Lifesteal should heal the minion itself?


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:03 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Sep 28, 2016
Posts: 1747
Preferred Pronoun Set: he/him/his/his/himself
neru wrote:
None of those effects are unusual for a card game to hit upon regardless. Double strike and windfury are really quite different.

I really do not think MtG's enrage is inspired by Hearthstone's.

You think Lifesteal should heal the minion itself?

1) Sure, they play different, because of different combat system. Still, direct copies.
2) HA ! Are you reeeeeeeeally suuuuuure ?????
3) Yep ! Why not ? Sure, it will play very differently, and probably be weaker and go in other decks, but it'll finally be logical.

_________________
nice quotes from this forum


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:14 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Sep 23, 2013
Posts: 12282
Identity: Chaoslight
Preferred Pronoun Set: She
This is an illusion. Similar systems are bound to lead to similar mechanics just like how seperate branches of evolution end up having very similar traits like tails and fins and etc.

Any card game with combat will probably have a multiple attack mechanic, a healing mechanic. Yugioh, hearhtstone, magic, eternal, duelyst i think even, all have haste mechanics. Most of those have double strike, even pokemon has a couple with double attacks.

Also lifelink heealing the minions would be a lot more powerful, possibly broken

_________________
altimis wrote:
I never take anytihng Lily says seriously, except for when I take it personally. Then it's personal.
WotC_Ethan wrote:
People, buy more stuff.
#WotCstaff
Spoiler

Image


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:45 am 
Offline
Member

Joined: Oct 13, 2015
Posts: 1819
I agree that lifesteal healing the minion would be really powerful.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:51 pm 
Offline
YMtC Champ '08

Joined: Dec 24, 2013
Posts: 968
Combo is a straight port from the World of Warcraft TCG from years ago, so it doesn't really qualify.

And anyway, creaturesmasher card games are bound to have similar mechanics, partly because things like they work very well.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group