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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:10 pm 
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This is why voting tests have been repeatedly struck down as unconstitutional, even if it would be really nice if all voters could pass grade school civics

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This is why voting tests have been repeatedly struck down as unconstitutional, even if it would be really nice if all voters could pass grade school civics

I was just talking about this with a friend yesterday night; we eventually discussed the idea of a license to have babies, but deciding who should have the power to deny someone else a basic right is always a very thorny issue... though one could argue the same about judges (or juries) decreeing the loss of someone's freedom.

Not the easiest of topics.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:59 pm 
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For the black ones? What about the others?

Many of them were grandfathered in. Literally; if you had an ancestor who could vote before 1867, then you were exempt from the literacy tests introduced in 1890. The Jim Crow period is not a bright time in American history.

I was just talking about this with a friend yesterday night; we eventually discussed the idea of a license to have babies, but deciding who should have the power to deny someone else a basic right is always a very thorny issue... though one could argue the same about judges (or juries) decreeing the loss of someone's freedom.

Interesting idea, but probably unenforceable without excessive nastiness. (I've read a couple of sci-fi books with civilizations like that, and the revolutions they inspire.)

Currently, where I live, there are two levels: "Minimum community standards" you need to abide in order to raise your own children, and a licensed level for raising those under the state's custody. The difference is quite broad, too; for example, two of the bedrooms in our house are only 110 square feet, which is not enough to legally house more than a single foster child each, so we gave up our master bedroom for a year. After adoption, the state wouldn't even care if we put all three in one of those smaller rooms, as long as they're not obviously being neglected.

Granted, part of that is a reaction to past abuses of the foster system...

I hear that certain states will immediately take custody of newborn children if they've had to take other children from those parents, but that's probably as close as we come to licensing childbirth; forced sterilization is frowned upon these days.


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"In nomine libertatis vincula aedificamus
In nomine veritatis mendacia efferimus"
Caparezza - Non Mettere Le Mani In Tasca

(translation: In the name of freedom we build constraints, In the name of truth we spread lies)

Caparezza is an Italian rapper that earned some fame combining catchy music with lyrics that mock many aspects of society and politcs; those lyrics are characterized by countless references to both "high" and pop culture, a healthy dose of irony for everything and everyone (including himself), shameless use of wordplay and creative use of common sayings. For this reason, the lyrics of his songs are regrettably very hard to translate; some may be quite hard to understand even for native speakers, and some of his hits ended being played in the same environments he meant to criticize... this is one of the many facts that make me uncomfortable about human nature (or maybe merely about Italy)

This very couple of lines (you can find them at 3:24 in the video) alone have a couple of interesting references; for context, the song talks about the cultural oppression of religion by picturing an actual totalitarian regime where pockets are declared outlaw (the title means "don't put your hands in your pockets") to symbolize the complete lack of privacy and freedom.
-The lines are enunciated as a leading voice and a chorus, reminding of the time when Italian priests used Latin for Masses, a period where most people were considered cultured if able to write and read, let alone understand a language useless to everyday's life. This led people to mindlessly repeat words they didn't understand, sometimes butchering them in tragicomic ways.
-the term "libertatis" reminds of "libertas", the word printed on the symbol of a catholic-oriented party which name translates as Christian Democracy. Said party thrived on the votes of the population who had little political conscience and trusted the omnipresent religious propaganda, giving power to a number of politicians deeply related to mafia.
-the lies-truth part probably refers to how fiercely the clerical hierarchy defended (and defends still, in some cases) their allied parties and politicians and suspect priests (I don't think I have to expand on the scandals related to pedophilia and corruption, they are quite known in the USA too), contrasting the talk of Truth one can find in the doctrine.

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Reminds me of the Malaysian rapper Namewee. Very cool.

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All Barin's beautiful haikus put me in mind of this one, which I always remember from reading James Bond as I was growing up:

You only live twice:
Once when you are born
And once when you look death in the face

- Ian Fleming, "You Only Live Twice"

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Also, I lament the fact this thread is not called Notable Quotables

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Barinellos wrote:

Also, I lament the fact this thread is not called Notable Quotables

That's because it was never meant to be.

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'How seductive is war! When you know your quarrel to be just and your blood ready for combat, tears come to your eyes. The heart feels a sweet loyalty and pity to see one's friend expose his body in order to do and accomplish the command of his Creator. Alongside him, one prepares to live or die. From that comes a delectable sense which no one who has not experienced it will ever know how to explain. Do you think that a man who has experienced that can fear death? Never, for he is so comforted, so enraptured that he knows now where he is and truly fears nothing.'"
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