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Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )

can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??

if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?

that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.
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for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.

So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.

( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).

if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )

same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.

Why should you waste your time?
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all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
im not talking these all things from my own.
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in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.

cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.

tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
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if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit s.ex, No g.ambling, No d.rugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )

5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna )

and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".
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If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit s.ex, no g.ambling, no d.rugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.

Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.

if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
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Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
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every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
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if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( triple w ( d . o . t ) asitis ( d . o . t ) c . o . m {Bookmark it })
read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, s.ex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.


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and if so many useless topics can go on here. then why the most important topic which is the purpose of human life cannot go on here ? why is it damn spam ? tell me the damn reason. ( foolish idiot )


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You seem new at proselytizing. The phrase ' foolish idiot' is mean enough that people will disengage from your argument so they don't have to deal with your personality.

You should probably get used to threads like this being ignored or disparaged. Most proselytizing is unsuccessful since only a minority of the population is open to examining the foundation of their belief systems: Generally young people who are still forming them, and individuals whose lives are in a such a state of self-perceived emotional and practical wreckage that a sort of psychological survival instinct activates. Of course, you want your message to get to those people, but most people who see your message will feel like you are wasting thier time.

Hopefully that answers your question. :)


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This is a far more interesting explanation of why people are resistant to changing their belief systems:

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe

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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 11:19 am 
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You seem new at proselytizing. The phrase ' foolish idiot' is mean enough that people will disengage from your argument so they don't have to deal with your personality.


so child is not interested for education. But it is the duty of the father to make him educated, sometimes father punish him. So a child may be foolish, but how the parents can be foolish?”

what is your answer ??

You should probably get used to threads like this being ignored or disparaged. Most proselytizing is unsuccessful since only a minority of the population is open to examining the foundation of their belief systems: Generally young people who are still forming them, and individuals whose lives are in a such a state of self-perceived emotional and practical wreckage that a sort of psychological survival instinct activates. Of course, you want your message to get to those people, but most people who see your message will feel like you are wasting thier time.

Hopefully that answers your question. :)


and everyones life is already wasted. you do not know it ? that ( along with you ) general masses life is already wasted. and if it is not wasted at all then simply recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute. and prove it that your ( along with general mass populations ) life is not wasted. come on friend after all its an open challenge.


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This is a far more interesting explanation of why people are resistant to changing their belief systems:

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe


and why shall i follow any *street dog* like you ? who are you ? who are you `1st of all ? are you another authority ? alright give me another verifaible and tangible explanation so that i can start following you.

and keep`1 thing in your ( dull ) brain that you cant **impose** ( or shift burdon of proof ) your authority on us ( The Hare Krishnas ) without explaining anything at all.


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>the human mind doesn't preserve useless information, therefore god exists
yeah I mean that sounds reasonable. I'll just cut garlic out of my life pronto and join this totally-not-a-vampire cult because every doctor in my country is secretly my mother, withholding the secret chant of eternal happiness from my purview.

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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 12:25 pm 
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>the human mind doesn't preserve useless information, therefore god exists
yeah I mean that sounds reasonable. I'll just cut garlic out of my life pronto and join this totally-not-a-vampire cult because every doctor in my country is secretly my mother, withholding the secret chant of eternal happiness from my purview.


so you mean that there was no father before your birth ? and you are dropped from the sky into the womb of your mother ? are you that intelligent idiot ?


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Come on now, I can only handle so many non-sequiturs.

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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 12:58 pm 
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Mown wrote:
Come on now, I can only handle so many non-sequiturs.


nah dont avoid the real issue ( foolish idiot ) and tell us the process by which we understand this thing that who is our real father ? cuz since before our birth we never seen our real father. so would you will accept anyone else as your real father ? OR what is the process by which we understand this thing that who is our real father ?

and no saying that there was no father before your birth cuz you never seen him. and you were drooped from the sky into the womb of your mother. that is not possible. my ( dull ) fellow


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I really don't think you're the one that should bring to question the limits of what is possible here, I'm not the one proposing happiness through magical phrases.

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Mown wrote:
I really don't think you're the one that should bring to question the limits of what is possible here, I'm not the one proposing happiness through magical phrases.


since you have failed even in telling the damn process by which we understand this thing that who is our real father. so why i have to go on beating the damn dead horse(s) like you ? why ?

since you are nothing but an failure. that is all.


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Nahaeei-- I'd like to reiterate that insulting your audience is not effective. Your earlier reply that you are like a father punishing a child is false; punishment should be used to shape behavior towards a desired result, but the result here is the opposite of what you claim to want (earnest examination of your ideas ) Besides, you are not a father figure to anyone on the boards. I'd prefer you address me as an equal.

Here is a link outlining basic effective communication skills:
https://www.thebalance.com/communication-skills-list-2063779

If you are serious about sharing your ideas with people, those skills will help you a lot. I'm not making a moral judgement here about right and wrong; My goal is to help you be more effective.

I am worried that you think you can know that someone is a failure after reading a few sentences they posted on a message board. That hasn't been my experience at all: there are so many ways to measure success that I need a lot of information about a person's life before I can pronounce them a failure.


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Nahaeei-- I'd like to reiterate that insulting your audience is not effective. Your earlier reply that you are like a father punishing a child is false; punishment should be used to shape behavior towards a desired result, but the result here is the opposite of what you claim to want (earnest examination of your ideas ) Besides, you are not a father figure to anyone on the boards. I'd prefer you address me as an equal.


so you mean that those childerns are intelligent or smarter who want to play whole day ? ( just see the fun ) and those parents are fools who want to educate them ? ( just see the folly )

If you are serious about sharing your ideas with people, those skills will help you a lot. I'm not making a moral judgement here about right and wrong; My goal is to help you be more effective.

I am worried that you think you can know that someone is a failure after reading a few sentences they posted on a message board. That hasn't been my experience at all: there are so many ways to measure success that I need a lot of information about a person's life before I can pronounce them a failure.


and what do you think that you are ? who are you ? who are you `1st of all ? and why shall i follow any *street dog* like you ? are you another authority ? alright give me another verifiable and tangible explanation so that i can start following you.

and if you have nothing but still go on **imposing** ( or shifiting burdon of proof ) your authority on us ( The Hare Krishnas ) without explaining anything at all. then i also dont beat the dead horse(s) like you. that is all.


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The reason I haven't met your demands and provided an answer is pretty simple, really:
1) Your English is terrible, so I don't know what you're asking for in the first place, or what the basis of discussion would revolve around. My knowledge or lack thereof of who my father is has no bearing on my perspective of reality as a whole.
2) It's not constructive, since I won't change your mind, and nobody else is going to listen to you anyway.
3) Taking you seriously would be a lot less entertaining.

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But Naheei, you're not taking your own advice. Look at it from my perspective and ask yourself this:

What do you think you are?

Who are you?

Who are you first of all?

And why should I follow any street dog like you?

Are you some kind of authority? If you are, please give me a verifiable and tangible explanation of your authority so that I can follow your advice.


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Do you guys want this guy around or no?

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The reason I haven't met your demands and provided an answer is pretty simple, really:
1) Your English is terrible, so I don't know what you're asking for in the first place, or what the basis of discussion would revolve around. My knowledge or lack thereof of who my father is has no bearing on my perspective of reality as a whole.
2) It's not constructive, since I won't change your mind, and nobody else is going to listen to you anyway.
3) Taking you seriously would be a lot less entertaining.


although my english is not very grammatically, rhetorically correct and Rascals are concerned with grammar. Actual workers are concerned with thoughts.


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But Naheei, you're not taking your own advice. Look at it from my perspective and ask yourself this:

What do you think you are?

Who are you?

Who are you first of all?

And why should I follow any street dog like you?

Are you some kind of authority? If you are, please give me a verifiable and tangible explanation of your authority so that I can follow your advice.


yes i have already given Practical explanation. and whatever i wanted to explain i have explained in it. so `1st read it. and than come here for argument.


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